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Larry, I didn't know I was rich until JDG71 pointed out I was a rich a$$hole.

Man, I'm sure glad he is on this site, who would thought, I finally made it.

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Larry,

I saw him first....just as soon as the swamp dries....er....ground water evaporates I'll have his millions in my pocket.LOL!

Ken,

Thanks for the nice words but I was expressing my opinion as is my right, my grandfather, father and myself fought in different wars to ensure that Americans had that right.

For the rest of you, you have the right to voice your opinion BUT you don't have the right to slander people in a public forum.....and that's what lawyer's and the court call it......Slander!

Tree

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Hey Ken,
Where were you hiding that all girl crew at Atco?

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Yo Ken,

Hot damn, I know there must be shoe boxes buried in the back yard. Come clean, are you are the Atlantic City contingent in a prominent "family?" Care to share in your riches?

Evan

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NOBODY on this forum goes as fast as i do on LESS money... yeah im the one who can qualify in the top 10 and you can find me sleeping in the back of my suburban, in front of the 18 year old open trailer.

what the hell does that have to do with this thread...
i run my own business, have two kids burning high tuition too...

so i put a premium on spending my money, and NHRA gets way too much for what i cost them
they have not raised the payout in my class for approximately 20 years, it used to cost $100 to run indy and paid $1500 to win... and i got to park within eyesight of the starting line (and more cars were entered).
they take me for entry fees, memebership, permanent number, insurance, oil disposal, and whatever cut they get on fuel, tires etc i buy at the track. my entry alone WAY MORE than pays for what i can win from thier pocket... the rest is just burning my money paying thier salaries and rent.

i would not have renewed my membership BUT PAT JOFFRION made me ... because i wanted to race at the only track where they give a **** about ME... NPR... im was thanked for coming, upon arrival, in tech, at the ET booth, and pat even went out of his way SEVERAL times to drop in and say thanks. i towed 1600+miles and happily paid to enter.

so kenny youre right its not about the extra 300-400 it could cost ... its about what i get for my money ... and DAN youre right its about where and when we draw the line... id say unless we get some sanity restored they have drawn it for me...im not going to indy either ... been there 22 of last 30 years.

jack mccarthy

im just a poor boy trying to play a rich mans game

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Sending letters to NHRA is like pissing into the wind, the only way that they will change is if the bean counters see a significant difference in the money that doesn't come into pockets. It will have start within it's own accounting group when they scramble to pay bills. Crap will start flowing up hill!
Casey Miles
248H E/S (WAITING FOR CHANGES)

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I didn't read every post but the concensus seems to be....it has to STOP. Same payout for two decades, more costs thrown to us sportsman racers.
Personally, I have a Stock number, ET Number, S/C number and a T/D number and the Competition License that just went from $50.00 to $100.00 alone. To get my numbers and renew my License $160.00 and I haven't even entered a race yet! I decided to just get the Stock number for now, I can race the dragster locally or at big $$ races without the added cost of NHRA License.
Will I quit? No, but I will definitely race less this year and not worry about what the sanctioning body is.

Now, the one guy who asked about Contingency Money and how it worked. My company, Trailer Toad, was a Contingency sponsor in 2008 I can tell you first hand:
We posted at Lucas Oil Drag Series Events and Divisional ET FInals.


$1000.00 membership to NHRA to be a posting Contingency Sponsor. $4500.00 in guaranteed payouts to be made, if less than that is paid to racers the balance goes to NHRA. (This is why most Contingency Sponsors decided to take a hike this year.)

I think the ET Finals Contingency cost $200 or $300 to post the money but no minimum you had to pay out.

We signed up for the 7 - Division ET FInals and the Jr Dragster League (no charge).

We also have established our own "Racer Rewards Program" We will pay the same contingency we did in 2008 but we handle the whole thing personally, with our customers.

If NHRA does not get a clue that raising every cost at one time was not a stupid move, we are stupid for paying those fees. If I raised the price of the Trailer Toad 50% (because I was going broke) I KNOW I would NOT SELL MORE Trailer Toads!!!!!!!

The NHRA is a membership driven organization, if you don't believe that just take a look at the replay of the stands in Vegas for the Pro Semi-finals and Finals.... couldn't have been 1/4 of the seasts occupied. That is WHEN the decision to raise Sportsman costs was made.

Wish the news was different but it isn't.

Jok

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I don't race a Stocker or Super Stocker, but I've been Bracket racing for 10 years now so I think I'm permitted an opinion on this... Yeah, I don't have the entry fees like you guys, nor the tow bills, but my family supports me and we try and have a good time racing here in the Northwest just the same despite having a special needs child that now is in the early stages of kidney failure. The car counts have been going down for a while now, especially last year. And now with the economy in the tank it's a real dumb move to say the least. The only thing that I guess I can bitch about is WHY THE HELL THE COMP # FEES DOUBLED? The only reason we bracket racers "need" one is for the ET Finals event at the end of the year.... Yeah, $80/2 years just so I can allowed the apparent privelge of racing at the Finals? All for just hitting the "renew" button or whatever the admin in Glendora does to keep it assigned to me? THAT is crap! The 'white house' in Glendora gets rid of the oil down penalties so I guess they had to recoup that money AND THEN SOME from us. A bunch of you have made a point of how the Sportsman racer is supporting the Pros. Well, throw in us bracket guys and that's a LOT of money from the customers that will be affected the most by it. Thousands of members with a least one number, let alone my fellow racers that are Stockers, the Index classes...

Thank you Dan Fletcher. It's a privilege to see someone as yourself stand up for a principle. To those making excuses for the raises: do I still have a job and can afford the doubling? Yeah, but that's NOT the point. It, along with some other increases were way out of line and when will it stop?

Sincerely,
Jerry Gossette
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/768944
http://www.cardomain.com/id/goose6891

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$1000.00 membership to NHRA to be a posting Contingency Sponsor. $4500.00 in guaranteed payouts to be made, if less than that is paid to racers the balance goes to NHRA. (This is why most Contingency Sponsors decided to take a hike this year.)

These guys can teach the Mafia a few tricks.

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Chevy620,

The $4500. is that for the year or per National Event. And what about class payout, could you elaborate on that. Thank You.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA