Originally Posted by treessavoy (Post 117752)

I think some of the grief with your car and the new FI cars is that you need a computer to tune your car while the rest of us are limited to timing lights and physical changes; jets, metering rods, timing changes, etc. How can we compete with a computer that can certainly make changes to your motor while we couldn't even detect the problem?

Originally Posted by Mike Voth (Post 117773)

It really shouldn't be too hard to understand the "computer" thing. There's absolutely no way a computer controlled car falls off as much as a non-computer controlled car. Where this becomes pertainant is in qualifying. A computer controlled car makes fuel and timing adjustment on the fly, which would, all things equal, make the car more efficient, and, in return, perform better for the conditions. We can make carb or timing changes according to the weather, but it's only a guess, not knowing how it will actually affect the car. The optimal setting will always be present in a computer controlled car. I wouldn't believe otherwise. But I don't mind the computer cars, in fact, it would be nice to drive one...a lot easier to maintain, I would guess. As long as it was American, and the big wheels were on the rear!

Originally Posted by Mike Voth (Post 117810)

Art - That's funny. I guess tire height accounts for something. :-)
I didn't realize your computer was run in open loop. Do many run them that way? That does make a difference in overall performance, doesn't it?

Originally Posted by Toyotakid (Post 117557)

It kinda makes me sad that there is so much hostility toward the newer technology. (FWD cars). I have been able to come run with you guys this year and have been having a great time. I grew up a muscle car fan and was Mopar all the way but I got an opportunty to drive for Toyota 5 years ago and I have not regretted it. The technology and design behind a 158 c.i. normally aspirated front wheel drive car running 9.60's @ over 140 is pretty darn cool. The thought and innovation of these cars is like the old days of the hot rod cars back in the "golden days". I also have noticed that the average age of the stock and super stock racer is getting up there and if NHRA does not embrace the new generation and the cars they are hot rodding right now there will be no more grass roots in 5-7 years ... Hell, it took me over a year just to get NHRA to let me run with you guys, don't get me sarted on my initial index compared to everyone else ... :)

Originally Posted by NewHemi (Post 179196)

Hey Art,

Losing consistency is bad enough, but when I first read it, I thought you said the O2 sensor would make you lose "consciousness"!

Now that would be real bad...

David
The New Hemi Guy