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Greg Hill 03-30-2010 06:39 AM

Re: Yet another bogu horsepower factor
 
I've got just the class for the new cars. Super Gas for the Challengers and Super Comp for the blown Mustangs.

Chris "drooze" Wertman 03-30-2010 08:34 AM

Re: Yet another bogu horsepower factor
 
Ok Rich......lets see..

First where which exact post have I ever told someone they dont know what they are talking about ? Thats your MO not mine. Post a link to the exact post. DP Items dont count, that I hate to say I probably do know more about that you, as hard as it is for you to believe, BUT Links, LINK, the BS falls on your side of the fence here my friend.

My understanding is you dont even have a current class car , is this correct ? Not, had, not will have not in the garage apart, do you have a current class car ? In as much as blowing it up, rebuilding it and lather rinse repeat, well keep doing it.

Do we have now to do it to "your" expectations ? Weve run in competition, and blown it up there.....next.

In as much as stories and distractions, ok hows this, ? My son is 13, hes had cancer and a liver transplant, no BS absolute fact, Now, he races, and enjoys it, what kind of example would I set for him if I did as you would desire and quit ? Dono what kind of father you are, but I know myself kids learn from example and I am proud of the example I set for him.

Isnt Morgan Fairchild a lesbian ? Odd you would pick her.......very odd.
Shes also about 100, you can have her.

And no you shouldnt take yourself too serious, I dont, nor do I myself. Sad you seem to. Oh well.....

Hes also ace at blowing them up:D

I will say it again, please post links here to where I am telling someone they dont know what they are talking about.....you opened the can lets see if you can back it up .http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4040/...a55a31a417.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel (Post 178410)
A new class is being formed...... B.S./SA Only new cars are allowed. Make up your own HP number and weight sticker......Run a power adder if you feel like it.....but it's still a legit Stocker.......New Breed Stock it's called....

You don't actually make any runs....you just see who can brag the most and make up all kinds of stories and distractions...and tell everyone else they don't know what they are talking about....or they just don't get it......or......blah, blah,blah.....

It's regodamnediculous .....

But I'm having fun with it.....and I don't take myself all that serious....

and Morgan Fairchild is my girfreind...yea thats right!


Jeff Teuton 03-30-2010 08:48 AM

Re: Yet another bogu horsepower factor
 
Rich, I'm not short, but I can slump. I am overqualified on the other counts. I will give her my Social Security check. Greg, I tried to call you yesterday, but no answer. I had to go to my fish camp and have a few beverages. I'm glad you found a new class for the new cars. I was starting to worry. Anybody going to Houston in SS. The entries in SS are really low, but it's still early. Course no Stock could be the issue.

Rich Biebel 03-30-2010 11:04 AM

Re: Yet another bogu horsepower factor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 178571)
Rich, I'm not short, but I can slump. I am overqualified on the other counts. I will give her my Social Security check. Greg, I tried to call you yesterday, but no answer. I had to go to my fish camp and have a few beverages. I'm glad you found a new class for the new cars. I was starting to worry. Anybody going to Houston in SS. The entries in SS are really low, but it's still early. Course no Stock could be the issue.

Jeff, I love you man.....thats funny ...........slump!!!

Rich Biebel 03-30-2010 11:16 AM

Re: Yet another bogu horsepower factor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drooze (Post 178567)
Ok Rich......lets see..

First where which exact post have I ever told someone they dont know what they are talking about ? Thats your MO not mine. Post a link to the exact post. DP Items dont count, that I hate to say I probably do know more about that you, as hard as it is for you to believe, BUT Links, LINK, the BS falls on your side of the fence here my friend.

My understanding is you dont even have a current class car , is this correct ? Not, had, not will have not in the garage apart, do you have a current class car ? In as much as blowing it up, rebuilding it and lather rinse repeat, well keep doing it.

Do we have now to do it to "your" expectations ? Weve run in competition, and blown it up there.....next.

In as much as stories and distractions, ok hows this, ? My son is 13, hes had cancer and a liver transplant, no BS absolute fact, Now, he races, and enjoys it, what kind of example would I set for him if I did as you would desire and quit ? Dono what kind of father you are, but I know myself kids learn from example and I am proud of the example I set for him.

Isnt Morgan Fairchild a lesbian ? Odd you would pick her.......very odd.
Shes also about 100, you can have her.

And no you shouldnt take yourself too serious, I dont, nor do I myself. Sad you seem to. Oh well.....

Hes also ace at blowing them up:D

I will say it again, please post links here to where I am telling someone they dont know what they are talking about.....you opened the can lets see if you can back it up .http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4040/...a55a31a417.jpg

Chris......Nowhere in my post is your name mentioned....why are you defending yourself?.......I think they call that a guilty conciensce syndrome......

I am sorry if your son is/was ill.......I wish him a full recovery.....

I have a son and his name is Rich Biebel Jr.....he is well liked and I raised him on my own since he was 7 years old.........and he's 42.....He's the service manager of a Powersports dealer........I am proud of him and always have been. He was always with me when I raced when he was young............I also have a daughter. She also was with me as I snuck her into the pits a few times when she was very young....She is married to Vet...as in pet doctor(surgeon) and is 36.....fortunatley both are and have always been fairly healthy.......so I know all about kids and setting a good example.....

I am not the perfect parent........but I think if you ask my kids they will tell you I did just fine......

Chris "drooze" Wertman 03-30-2010 11:35 AM

Re: Yet another bogu horsepower factor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel (Post 178606)
I am not the perfect parent........but I think if you ask my kids they will tell you I did just fine......

In the end that is the only single thing that matters, None of the rest of it, trudging along through life and going to bed every night knowing your kids are well and loved, that is the only thing that matters.

I congratulate you on what sound like fine kids, but holy smokes how old are you ? Lol....no seriously, I put you at mid 40's guess I missed that one. lol....your son is in his mid 40's.....wow....I dont think I could have been farther off on that if I tried.

Well, sitting at mickeyds watching the little ones play.....my daughter is 4, SHE is the rotten one......But I can say I dont think ill have to worry about "the boys" more that they will worry about her....little thug she is

Rich Biebel 03-30-2010 11:51 AM

Re: Yet another bogu horsepower factor
 
See, we have more in common than you think........Chris

I am 62+ but a very young 62! Except for when my body reminds me how old I really am......and that's every friggen day usually.....

My son was and is a huge 2 wheeler enthusiast.......Built bicyles when he was a kid......he rides everything and anything on 2 wheels.......from bicycles to road racing big rice burners....at places like Pocono, Loudon, 3 Mile Point, NJ Motorsports park.......alll just "club" racing for fun.......He also owned a small Suzuki dealership for a number of years........He is good on a road course and took some pro lessons with some big name Suzuki factory riders teaching..........He scared the bejesus out of me one day when he brought a bike to the race track to drag race. I couldn't watch ! .....He went 10.70's on a Street bike.....a GSXR 750 or a 1000 I think it was. He rides with a very serious group of friends and they have some very cool bikes......

Me.....I'm a H-D type ....a Sportster fits and I am seriously tempted to get one.....but I remind myself about all those stitches I required once upon a time..........

NewHemi 03-30-2010 12:46 PM

Re: Yet another bogu horsepower factor
 
Hey Rich...

I could point that since you pulled a quote from Drooze's post that might be the reason he thought your comments were directed at him....But never mind. Now that I know we are about the same age, I can look past all of that.

Hey I am 64, with 65 coming along in a couple of months... I only had one child, a son Chris (Drooze" to you.) We figured out what caused it to happen and quit that immediately. And only having one child, has allowed me to be a young 64/65. In fact I was 62 before I ever had to spend a night in a hospital, and was on absolutely no medications. Then came lung cancer, but as my doctor tells me, I am atypical, responding well to the chemo and a great attitude. I cant do much about how I respond to the chemo, but as for the attitude, the alternative would be to give up , or live....And I chooose to live it up..

Don't worry, be happy..

And to Greg Hill, Drooze had a 10.68 run when he was bouncing off the rev limiters that we had set for the dyno and not removed, in 1rst and second gear, so I guess you might say he made a pretty good pass there. I expect it would have been very low 10s with a higher rev limit.

My best in the car was in the low 11's as I was still getting used to the car. And had we not blown up coming out of the burn out, I imagine we might have gotten back into the 10's.... And with a 5.7 we will be in the low 10's or better...

Do we have good advice to give? Knowing what not to do, is as valuable as knowing what to do. But we also know a lot of what does work. Yes, we have good advice to offer, and those who actually have a DP and/or 5.7 or 6.1 know they can, do call us for for any kind of help we can offer. Working with a brand new car. A brand new class. A brand new engine combo, is not a simple thing. But just because it isn't the easy road, doesn't mean we won't take it.

To say that someone is "full of crap" seems a little harsh.And when you don't know the facts it is just plain wrong, and frankly it seems a bit nasty.. But that is OK. Just keep making your personal attacks and showing people what kind of guy you are. We really don't care.

David
The New Hemi Guy

Rich Biebel 03-30-2010 01:50 PM

Re: Yet another bogu horsepower factor
 
David......

One thing about the interent...it gets people wound up and unlike a person to person discusssion it often turns somewhat ugly for some reason.....I think people are very opinionated, and especially us older dudes.

If I was standing right next to you and we had some of these conversations it would never be like via the internet. We can fuss and argue and usually disagree or agree about issues but it would usually just be a very civil but maybe spirited conversation.......

I got my start in drag racing by racing a Jr.Stocker and that is where my roots are in the sport.....I have raced Stockers and a SS'er a few times but it was more than my budget could allow usually. I always built my own cars and engines. I can live without the bickering, rules issues and never ending controversies but I allow my self to get caught up in it sometimes.....and spout my opinions.

I presently race a dragster in brackets and S/C........It's fits my budget for time and money.......I enjoy racing and have fun and always have.......These are legitamite racecars even if many Classracers think otherwise. I won't go into a diatribe about that subject........It's to bad that we all don't stick together and support all categories. If we did maybe NHRA would treat US all better and racing conditions would be better for all.

David...I wish you good health so you can eventually race the DP and make some good runs.........Us old guys gotta stick together.......

RJ Sledge 03-30-2010 01:52 PM

Re: Yet another bogu horsepower factor
 
Just wanted to say that I've known Greg Hill for quite a few years and they don't come any better, straighter or helpful than he. Don't know you and your boy, am sure you are just "good old boys" having fun with a new toy, but I don't think you understand or can appreciate what Greg and racers like him have gone through the last 20 years or so and it just makes it a little hard to try an swallow all the BOGUS hp/combo's that people can go and buy and that NHRA lets it happen.

You earn respect you don't buy it.

Later RJ


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