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Hey Casey, on Saturday its 116 against and 67 for your "lets change the rules"...that means your losing dude!!!!!
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I can tell you the exact valid argument. Prior to dial in racing, stock and superstock ran off National Records. Then a group of complaining racers who were not winning campaigned to allow a new rule called "dial under", to level the playing field and make it fair for everyone.
But that was not fair enough for some. Change the rules again so you THINK you can win. You want to get rid of the breakout inequity? I agree. Lets change that rule. Change it back to running of the national records with no break out. Problem solved. I don't have a rule book in front of me, so correct me if I'm wrong, but a red light or lane crossing is grounds for disqualification. Going under the dial is not, it's simply a matter of doing the math. Quote:
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Nobody wants to change anything about breakout rules; this whole thing is just a discussion about why should the second car to leave get a free ride to the next round (or, Winners' Circle) just because his opponent left first and red lighted. Some folks on here think that the second car to leave should get HIS chance to red light, too. They feel that there's no reason why he shouldn't face HIS red light jeopardy, too, as a matter of fairness. Can you think of any good reason why he shouldn't? I can't... The fact is, that the rule that creates this lopsided scenario came about in 1963 (!) when the electronic capability of correcting it didn't exist, yet, but it does, now... so, saying "It's always been that way" isn't a valid reason. Way past time to fix it... |
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You want to get rid of the breakout inequity? I agree. Lets change that rule. Change it back to running of the national records with no break out. Problem solved.
Sounds like a good idea.But then S/SS would turn into a playground for guys with deeeeeeeep pockets.Think about it. |
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I'll concede I'm wrong about that impertinent and off-the-wall statement that your namesake made when EITHER of you answers the question I have asked MANY times. but neither of you EVER answers, which is, "Can you give me ONE GOOD, LOGICAL, LEGITIMATE REASON NOT TO CHANGE THIS LOPSIDED, UNFAIR RULE?" I think I'm safe.... |
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I've read it all. You must not have because I've already explained the redlight part several pages ago. Then, while further reading the whole thread, the breakout rule was questioned and asked for a re-write. So I responded to that. Now, I'm responding to you. See? Now please read what I wrote on the redlight issue and you will see my thoughts on it.
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Bunkster Post # 22 (change breakout rules) YOUR post # 23 (you agreeing with Bunkster on breakout rule revision) Once one vehicle breaks out, the other vehicle ought to be immune? Bunkster: "The first to foul, and the first to breakout are always the loser." Seems like this would be a consistent application of the notion of "first". Bill Dedman: "wish I'd said that" And you just told me nobody wants to change breakout rules. Guess you're no saint. |
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