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K Stubbs 07-02-2011 02:52 PM

Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!
 
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Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland (Post 267060)
Kevin - Yes I do remember. That was one of the tidbits of info I was using in my analysis.

When are you going to race your beast? It cost a bit more than a dime, didn't it!

Yes sir, I stopped counting at 40k lol it was starting to hurt my feelings. My engine is getting dynoed/freshened up for BG and Indy, so hopefully in a few weeks. Great post, I knew you and Billy would be great at doing this and to be honest if I knew this could be done for 5k, I would put up the money just to show everyone it could be done. Might encourage some people to do the same on a limited budget. Great ideas.

Tom keedle 07-02-2011 03:30 PM

Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!
 
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Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland (Post 267058)
This may be the 153 in the 96 Dakota:

http://www.allpar.com/mopar/amc-25.html

yep, i was thinking about the earlier dakotas...
don't see many 4 cyl trucks/jeeps come thru the shop.... too much altitude out here...
VERY little 2wd truck, too.

Mark Yacavone 07-02-2011 03:41 PM

Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!
 
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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 267012)
Good morning! Ready for another "Dime Rocket"launch?
1981-82 Camaro, Malibu, Monte Carlo with 2V 267/150.
I can't believe this one hasn't been done ever! It gives away some cam and valve size to the 262 combo that we all know works but it also gets back 15 HP! Down side would have to be getting cars light enough to run U and it's probably stuck there. It would probably even work with the 7.5 rear (4.56 best ratio) and a short slick which would be lighter and cheaper. Sorry Dwight, this one's auto only. It actually has a bigger carb than the 75 262.
Just one more comparo, there were a couple of good running 229 V6s around so we know that they work, the 267 is rated 2 HP less than the V6!

There was a black Malibu about 15 years ago, 267/ U/SA down around Houston. It had Pyroil on the side of it ,so I'm sure it had something to do with the Emmons Boys.
I seemed to only run right around the index. It kinda disappeared after some rumors surfaced about a 305 short block. I hope not, because it didn't run all that well.
Anybody?

Dwight Southerland 07-02-2011 03:52 PM

Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Stubbs (Post 267061)
Yes sir, I stopped counting at 40k lol it was starting to hurt my feelings. My engine is getting dynoed/freshened up for BG and Indy, so hopefully in a few weeks. Great post, I knew you and Billy would be great at doing this and to be honest if I knew this could be done for 5k, I would put up the money just to show everyone it could be done. Might encourage some people to do the same on a limited budget. Great ideas.

Thanks!! This is fun for me.

You mentioned something there that makes me think. We ought to do that as a project and document a blow by blow (might even Facebook or Twitter it) just to see if it can be done. Reckon we could get a magazine or website or manufacturer to fund it????

K Stubbs 07-02-2011 06:30 PM

Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland (Post 267067)
Thanks!! This is fun for me.

You mentioned something there that makes me think. We ought to do that as a project and document a blow by blow (might even Facebook or Twitter it) just to see if it can be done. Reckon we could get a magazine or website or manufacturer to fund it????

Thats exactly what I was thinking.....I think we should seriously think about it, it would be fun to see if we could find the right "project budget stocker" to build for the least amount of money and be competitive in a lower class. Would definately get attention.

Billy Nees 07-02-2011 07:45 PM

Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!
 
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Originally Posted by K Stubbs (Post 267088)
Thats exactly what I was thinking.....I think we should seriously think about it, it would be fun to see if we could find the right "project budget stocker" to build for the least amount of money and be competitive in a lower class. Would definately get attention.

I've always wanted to build a Stocker as completely as I could off of E-Bay!

Dennis P Chapman 07-02-2011 11:29 PM

Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!
 
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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 267096)
I've always wanted to build a Stocker as completely as I could off of E-Bay!

Hey Billy
Remember the blue sundance I built had less them 2800.00 in it got
a lot of parts of ebay. That car went 1.16 under old index.

kdanner 07-02-2011 11:49 PM

Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!
 
I'd hate to tear it down but I think a 96-97 Thunderbird 4.6L might be considered a "dime rocket". Really don't think the 96-98 Mustang 4.6L 2V would be too bad either.

Dwight Southerland 07-03-2011 08:00 AM

3RD "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!
 
Okay, bargain hunters! Ready for an off-the-wall challenge today? Today's entry for consideration is a

71-72 AMC Ambassador 304/210/180 for U/SA

Much the same characteristics as the 305 2-bbl Chevy except for the funky body. When compared to the Chevy, some similarities are:
Slightly bigger bore and shorter stroke.
A bit more compression.
Similar sized carb, though a Motorcraft rather than a Rochester.
Better flowing heads.
Longer intake runner; maybe beneficial for more torque.
Generous camshaft.
Better rod-stroke ratio (if that matters, but it sounds good).
904 Torqueflite.
Adequate rear end - 8 7/8" ring gear AMC 20.
Cheap pistons available.

I know that a similar one was raced a few years ago, but it was a '76 station wagon which does not have as good motor pieces and could not get within 300 lbs of minimum weight. Even so, that car ran .3-.4 under.

Billy Nees 07-03-2011 08:34 AM

Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!
 
Dwight, you beat me to the keyboard this morning! I wanted to do the 304 (think spoiled brat stamping his feet)!
I'm going to guess that my next one could be done within our budget but I will probably have to go to Mark for a final thumbs up.
Lew Becker and I ran across one of these cars at an auction and I actually had Lew bidding on it. It was very clean and didn't go for any real money.
76 Buick Century with 2V 350/205 or put the 4V on it. It makes Q/R/T with 2V or swap intake and make O/P/Q.
1.250 Venturi 2g flows around 350 cfm, great heads, small cam, medium valves but at 205 HP it's 25 HP less than a 350 2V Chevy that does work.
Only real down side that I could see is the big, heavy body that it has to go in unless it were in a Skylark for P. But it is a 6 class car with an intake change!
Marky Mark, can it be under the index on our budget?


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