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Re: The New IHRA ???

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Originally Posted by Alex Denysenko (Post 368613)

Just because there are new owners what makes anyone think that anything will change since the same 2 decision makers are still in charge :(

There you have it...I believe that's what most people that raced w/ IHRA in the Bader days are thinking. Just like you Alex!

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change the payout structure. Top heavy payouts are sending over half of racers home without anything. Lets bring back incentivaes to racers that love the competition and fellowship enough to invest lots of $$$ with a small chance of return. Rising prices vs looking at having to win 2 rounds or more to get $$$??? Well just my $.02

What's your suggestion for entry fee and the complete payout structure?

http://etdragracing.com/magazine/jan...of-racing-math

Re: The New IHRA ???

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Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 368348)

1) This is merely archived footage. The entire event was broadcast live, including photo galleries, results, and interviews.
2) TV is EXPENSIVE. Pinks All Out cost "more than $400,000 an episode"
3) Missed a TV broadcast? Unless you DVR'd it, it's gone. There's very little multiplier available.
3) TV viewership is a guesstimate. Online viewership is trackable via server stats, it's a targeted, engaged audience, where advertisers have the ability to do more than just show static banner ads or traditional commercials. Audiences can also participate in live chat while watching the broadcast. Times, and audiences, are changing.

If it wasn't for my wife, we wouldn't even have cable. I canned it when I was in NC, and didn't miss it at all. There is an enormous amount of content available online now. The paradigm is slowly from "watch when we tell you to watch" to watch on-demand.

That would be the people that PAID to make the broadcast possible. While you can't skip it in the live broadcast, you can very easily click past it in youtube. I've seen a lot of threads recently saying how "sponsors should do this" and "sponsors should do that", yet people complain about how sponsors don't do everything the racer wants and exactly how they want it.

Quite frankly, I thought the use of 'classic' elevator music in the elevator ad was hilarious! Am I in the market to buy an elevator? No, and never will be, but I sure appreciate everything John Taylor has done for the sport, both locally and nationally.

Should have made myself clear.
Meant the youtube advertisement.

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Art, you are right. It will die with us. THE END!!!

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Originally Posted by chris3racing (Post 368358)

"Pinks" and "Pinks All Out" are to completely different things. Pinks was a complete disgrace to drag racing. It was like going to a fight and a drag race broke out. Pinks, in my opinion, was suppose to appear to be a grudge street race for "Pink Slips." Pinks All Out was a tv show and you did have to do some "show time" in the pits and in the staging lanes but when you pulled to the starting line one prize of $18,000 was at the end of the day. If you went to be on tv with 550 race cars in 9 classes then that was a roll of the dice. After you raced the first time under their program you new what to expect, but track to track for 3 years we raced their series it was a mad dash to get into the race which fill in about 10 minutes, but the entry fees were reasonable, spectators cost was reasonable at $25 per day to see 550 cars run heads up and "all out.

Wade you hit the nail on the head. Whether you are a car guy are not there are still people who like drag racing and just do not know that there are race track operating and there are some good races. The tracks seem to believe that the computer automatically comes on and tells you there is a drag race this week-end at your local track. It seem that they fell that everyone will go get on the computer and look for a race. In our area, North Carolina, the only radio advertisement you hear is NHRA at ZMax and ADRL at Rockingham. No one knows that one of the best drag racing events in our area, the Stock/Super Stock combo races, ever takes place unless they are a family member, friend or a Stock/SuperStock racer.

ive heard piedmont do a radio add with the stock/super stock combos before

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Best thing to do is go and support even if there are things you don't like about it and voice your opinions at the race to the person you want to here it. ......

Most of you gripe and complain about Nhra and still go.....

It will not change over night ..

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Originally Posted by 442OLDS (Post 368357)

If the weather holds up,I think there will be a pretty good crowd this year at this event:

http://www.route66raceway.com/Events...t-Sundown.aspx

The pit side spectator parking for this event is a good start, no one is parking 2 miles from their seat and walking back and forth to their car with kids, especially for a divisional race. I still say to run the Sportsman qualifying off of the class indexes. It is already in the computer and the cars still take the same amount of time to travrse the 1/4 mile. At least it adds a little drama to the finish line.

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Div 4 did that for a while. It was interesting, and good practice. Don't know why it stopped.

Re: The New IHRA ???

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Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 368709)

What's your suggestion for entry fee and the complete payout structure?

http://etdragracing.com/magazine/jan...of-racing-math

My suggestion is to look at the Bader days. The issue is not that the tracks have to make a profit, or the cost to compete has risen. But the reality that it is very difficult to go one or more rounds at the level of competition we have. A weekend warrior can win one or two rounds and not win anything, only the top 8 or 16. So are more racers more likely to compete in events that have large payouts for the top 4, 8 or 16 finishers, which is usually about 25% of the total car count. As appose to round $$ and more moderate top $$ payout? Could that have been a factor in the low car counts of the 5k S/SS events of the recent?

PS: Bobby, I like the ideal of index qualifying too.

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My suggestion is to look at the Bader days. The issue is not that the tracks have to make a profit, or the cost to compete has risen.

Those absolutely are issues, and that's why changes were made in the first place.

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But the reality that it is very difficult to go one or more rounds at the level of competition we have.

Yes, it is. It is challenging. It takes a good car, skill, and a little luck. If it were not challenging, we would just go to test n' tune and car shows. You can help the driver aspect of the equation at www.thisisbracketracing.com

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A weekend warrior can win one or two rounds and not win anything, only the top 8 or 16.

No. 2nd round winners do in fact get paid already.

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So are more racers more likely to compete in events that have large payouts for the top 4, 8 or 16 finishers, which is usually about 25% of the total car count. As appose to round $$ and more moderate top $$ payout?

Please detail the entry fee, complete purse structure, track and promoter expenses, what the necessary level of profit is in order to remain viable, and the car counts required in each class to achieve that.