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James Perrone 06-09-2013 11:28 AM
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We l saidBruce..Dan lives in fantasy land..
Like I have said more non racers than racers..
Enough of Pure Stock......They are like the Harley classes....bogus

Andys dad 06-09-2013 11:57 AM
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Bruce thanks so much for that extremely useful information.. 99 % .. public temper tantrums and displays of anger are not acceptable .. they are punished severly in all sports and most homes .. I new better than to go against the grain but I am a racer and am entitled to my humble opinion .. just not on this forum

Bruce Noland 06-09-2013 12:07 PM
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Andy,
Racer? Yes, you are entitled to your humble opinion.

Chad Rhodes 06-09-2013 02:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andys dad (Post 385372)
Bruce thanks so much for that extremely useful information.. 99 % .. public temper tantrums and displays of anger are not acceptable .. they are punished severly in all sports and most homes .. I new better than to go against the grain but I am a racer and am entitled to my humble opinion .. just not on this forum
Two questions

1. In the several years preceding this, has anyone used professional tactics to get NHRA's attention, and actually accomplish positive change?

2. Did David Barton get NHRA's attention?

7423 06-09-2013 03:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes (Post 385387)
Two questions

1. In the several years preceding this, has anyone used professional tactics to get NHRA's attention, and actually accomplish positive change?

2. Did David Barton get NHRA's attention?
#1.....I assume no, otherwise you would have never brought it up.

#2....Sure, put them $2500 up and Barton $2500 in the hole. The embarrassment of the formal apology has yet to come. He said the wrong thing, to the wrong guy, in the wrong place, at the wrong time. He was just flat wrong. I once had a friend that pulled that crap on a regular basis. Now an X friend.

Now a couple questions for you...............What do you think was accomplished by his actions? How will that hissy fit benefit sportsman racers?

Chad Rhodes 06-09-2013 03:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 7423 (Post 385392)
#1.....I assume no, otherwise you would have never brought it up.

#2....Sure, put them $2500 up and Barton $2500 in the hole. The embarrassment of the formal apology has yet to come. He said the wrong thing, to the wrong guy, in the wrong place, at the wrong time. He was just flat wrong. I once had a friend that pulled that crap on a regular basis. Now an X friend.

Now a couple questions for you...............What do you think was accomplished by his actions? How will that hissy fit benefit sportsman racers?
I think people are now talking about the incident, I think NHRA was embarrassed that a lowly serf stopped their show for a few minutes. Will it lead to them taking some responsibility for ensuring that the sportsman racers have a decent track? We shall see. I think that NHRA being heavy handed has done even more to unite the sportsman racers, to stand up together and say enough is enough. It's just like this country. Some have to go first, and pay the price, before the masses decide to band together.

jmcarter 06-09-2013 03:59 PM
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You are always free to respond to diversity like Mike Cotten did at Pomona. Meanwhile, the Epping race remains full in Stock so not sure anybody has made on impression on anybody. The fact that NHRA formally conceded they even made an error is a good sign IMHO.

Dinsdale 06-09-2013 04:05 PM
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My guess is that NHRA is now so embarrassed that they will spend the $2500.00 on a couple drums of PJ1 (VHT) and a hand sprayer and all will be forgotten.

Pistol Pete 06-09-2013 04:16 PM
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Chad

Your last post is: "right on".

It is just like this country & you have to stand up.

Sure, one guy payed the price, but we have to stand up in masses to hopefully
make a difference in our sport.

We do pay Heavily for our Entry Fees and i wish we could start our own Organization.

I Wish For Just 1 National Race, Nobody Enters In Stock & Super Stock.
If Super Comp & Super Gas Want to Help The More The Better.

You figure if 70 entries per catergory x 4= 280 racers x $310 = $86,800.
Plus at least 1 crew member x $80.= $22,400.

That's over $100,000 dollars they wouldn't get.

Let's see what happens then !!!!!

Dan Fahey 06-09-2013 04:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes (Post 385357)
Dan, i think you are missing the point. NHRA continues to treat sportsman racers like cattle, and does not value our input on anything. Oh, they pay fine lip service at times, but they really coul care less. That was evident by the starters response to David.

None of us know exactly what transpired when David got out of his car. But NHRA heard him loud and clear. He stopped their show, and expressed his opinion. if the suits in Glendora aren't in a coma, they know that 99% of the racers stand behind David Barton. There is a time for civility, and it's been tried for years. Sometimes you have to lose it for people to understand that you're serious. It's like dealing with a bully, you have to stand up and defend yourself. It's very easy to trash can an email or letter. It's impossible to ignore a man standing in front of you expressing his opinion.
Chad:
Not missing the point, I am not glossing over it.

YOU have it exactly correct about NHRA attitude.
My comments are based on what was written before I made my first big comment.

99% should be behind Dave regarding the safety of the tracks.

AGAIN...do not dismiss his alleged bad behavior.
That is why he was fined.

We have to systematically organize to get NHRA to change or it will not.

Dan


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