Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I??
 

It's a good deal. Do you want to run 2-3 tenths under or 1 second under? If the answer is 1 second under get out the check book its gonna be expensive. If you just want to get in the game then its a good deal.
Now if you're interested I have a P/SA Cutlass 7-8 under for $14,000

Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I??
 

And members talk and complain about the new stockers from the factory.
Dart Block
Top Notch Heads and IntakeI
Roller rockers
Tool Steel Lifters
Manley Pro I Beam Rods
High Dollar Pistons
Wow,these parts cost over $15,000?

Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I??
 

Not the cost or parts in the new cars, it's the bogus low hp factors.

Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I??
 

And then some, if you're trying to run up front.

Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I??
 

There is no way those parts cost 15,000 for a small block Chevy. The block is around $1300, the rods about $600, pistons and rings $1200, roller rockers $300, don't know about tool steel lifters, we run Smith lifters which are around $700. That adds up to $3700 before the heads and intake. Let's allow $4300 for the heads and intake from Top Notch. Looks like 8k to me. I realize it takes more parts than that, cam, bearings, gaskets, oil pump, and assorted others. I bet you I could get an good engine builder I happen to know well to build a 1.10 under 305 for 12k with some really good stuff and would go right through tear down.

Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I??
 

The next tenth is 10K at least if you already have the rest of the car sorted out.

Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I??
 

Not gonna get in a pissing match on here but here's the break down on parts cost:
Dart block all done, bored, honed, lifter bushed and race ready is $2500
Top notch heads and intake with valves, springs, head studs and guide plates $5000
Tool steel lifters top notch dlc coated from trend $1100
Roller rockers from comp, ultra pro magnum $500+
Metric ring set with ring spacers (best stuff) $1375
Manley pro I beam rods $1175
Cp stocker pistons $800-1000
Good crank is gonna run you $1000

And you still haven't bought pushrods, gaskets, timing set, bearings, timing cover, oil pan, carb, and all the little accesories. I build these for a living and buy the parts on a daily basis so I kinda know what it costs...and I also can gurantee mine will go "right through tear down" also...

Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I??
 

Wow! My little spare parts 6k motor is looking better all the time lol. Don't run too bad either.

Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I??
 

roller rockers from comp
Double that if you opt for the big studs, and install adjusters in the rockers...triple it if you can't do it yourself.....and I am jus talking about the rockers

Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I??
 

Wow. Definitely not the Stock Eliminator I was attracted to in the 70's!