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SC363B 01-28-2018 08:24 PM

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I have always thought that for ahfs to work you need a bump. If there were more than 64 superclass cars and a bump we would have to try to run .90 instead of just having a time trial. It would be a whole new challenge for the super class racers.
I don’t know why I’m posting my driver has 0 grade points and probably won’t have more than 1 or 2 after next year. After 25 years of chasing NHRA I give up. We have a great track 45 miles from home that runs 10 Q 16 races and we have the Midwest Super Comp Assoc. That runs 13 races with all but one being a weekend double and all are less than 200 miles from home.
Not mad at NHRA still love them just tired. Leave Sat. morning and be home Sat. or Sun. night.

SS3718 01-28-2018 09:26 PM

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Without quotas it would take 7 days to complete a race! Even with quotas, the current races get behind schedule which results in Sportsman getting bumped to late at night!

Casey Miles 01-28-2018 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 554665)
Mr. 363, you bring up a valid point that I have never considered.To increase the car count by ten cars, NHRA would need an additional 60 spots for both stk and SS, sg and sc , and TD and TS if they are competing that weekend...It would be difficult to find the room at Gainesville BUT it could easily be done at Vegas......BTW if anyone ever figures out the NHRA business model, please pass it onto me......

This is going to open a fire storm! At Gainesville raceway they say that there isn't room for more racers do to space. The Pro's park their race rigs with all their equipment in the pits and their motor homes are parked outside the pit area. To open up space for more sportsman race cars, why doesn't NHRA have the large motor homes drop their trailers in the pits and put the motor homes outside like the pros? NHRA could impose a specified parking size per entry to allow more entries for the race. Just an Idea and observation!

pmrphil 01-29-2018 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Casey Miles (Post 554677)
This is going to open a fire storm! At Gainesville raceway they say that there isn't room for more racers do to space. The Pro's park their race rigs with all their equipment in the pits and their motor homes are parked outside the pit area. To open up space for more sportsman race cars, why doesn't NHRA have the large motor homes drop their trailers in the pits and put the motor homes outside like the pros? NHRA could impose a specified parking size per entry to allow more entries for the race. Just an Idea and observation!

Let's just put your firestorm out. Think, the pro's only use the motorhome for sleeping (very few have young families, when they do they're in the pits) and the sportsmen are mostly families - put them outside? I think not. How about moving some of the "hospitality" ares outside? That'll free up quite a bit of space.

Ron Ortiz 01-29-2018 10:05 AM

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SS 3718. That's funny, when I went to the Gators or The Southerns when we had over 100 entries in Stock the races were completed in plenty of time. But with low quotas, they can't get it done. BS. Only weather or oil downs slowed the show. Heck, they even have escorts with sirens to get the pros back to their pit areas to save their precious TV time.

Want to hear a good joke, some race tracks have four lanes and low quotas.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA 32 car fields in the future

Pete Lanciers 01-29-2018 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by pmrphil (Post 554696)
Let's just put your firestorm out. Think, the pro's only use the motorhome for sleeping (very few have young families, when they do they're in the pits) and the sportsmen are mostly families - put them outside? I think not. How about moving some of the "hospitality" areas outside? That'll free up quite a bit of space.

Now there's a no ****ter!!!

Don Kennedy 01-29-2018 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Kennedy (Post 554634)
Correct on the earn points is a given

but do the math 500 race car per event times 24 events times say $500 per car is ??? looks around 6 mill per year to me just in entry fees give or take a few dollars just using this as an example ,all I would like NHRA to do is raise the Quota in Stock and Super Stock by 50 entries per event , since I am a Super Stock racer and like Stock

I am not trying to cause issues or criticize anyone just trying to help NHRA make more money so the Sportsman purses can go up . It seems to me the Sportsman prize money have not gone up but down ????

voltdr 01-29-2018 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Kennedy (Post 554703)
I am not trying to cause issues or criticize anyone just trying to help NHRA make more money so the Sportsman purses can go up . It seems to me the Sportsman prize money have not gone up but down ????

Why would you think that if NHRA made more money, any of it would go to the sportsman racers..........Really??????????????

Don Kennedy 01-29-2018 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by voltdr (Post 554705)
Why would you think that if NHRA made more money, any of it would go to the sportsman racers..........Really??????????????

Because it is NHRA legally, ethically and even morally to create a level playing fields as a non profit entity and a major Sports provider with liberty and justice for all >LOL:D

Mike Pearson 01-29-2018 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Casey Miles (Post 554677)
This is going to open a fire storm! At Gainesville raceway they say that there isn't room for more racers do to space. The Pro's park their race rigs with all their equipment in the pits and their motor homes are parked outside the pit area. To open up space for more sportsman race cars, why doesn't NHRA have the large motor homes drop their trailers in the pits and put the motor homes outside like the pros? NHRA could impose a specified parking size per entry to allow more entries for the race. Just an Idea and observation!

There is plenty of room in the pits at the Gators. Last year with out any officials parking the rigs racers took as much room as they could for their pit area. If there was a more efficient use of the pit area there would be more than enough room for more sportsman competitors. If racers took the minimum instead if the maximum pit space there would be room for everyone. There should be no motor homes of campers in the pit area that are not tow rigs. The manufacture midway and circus should be located in a better spot for access from both sides of the grand stands. There is a real nice pit spot at the finish line in the pine trees that used to be premium pit parking for racers. Now they have spectator campers and Barbeques set up there. There is also a ton of room at the go cart track. Its a little far to staging. We parked there last year for the points race and moved up for the gators when the others pulled out.


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