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SSDiv6 04-23-2018 05:51 PM
Re: Horsepower on tuesday
 
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Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 561512)
Why don't we start off by assuming that everyone will pass? Wouldn't it be better to tear down the guy that is getting paid over some guy that is already pissed because he is out?

I am fine with random after the last qualifying run.

Heck I am fine with tearing one down after the first round bye..........

(I also think they could have torn Allen down to the bare block and he would have passed!!)
I have lost count how many times Allen and his customer's engines have been torn down at different venues and they have all passed.

At the 2015 Indy race, Allen didn't only have to go what I would call a colonoscopy with his Corvette, but also had to teardown a few of his customers engines...and all of them passed.

Allen Sherman 04-23-2018 06:32 PM
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FWIW I’m 110% in agreement with tear downs after a 1.20 or more under run as well as after a win or runner up. That’s what makes stock and super stock racing different than just a bracket race. I take great pride in being able to go fast and be within the rules, so I’m all for making sure all the things we do are done legitimately.

Everett Vassar 04-23-2018 06:48 PM
Re: Horsepower on tuesday
 
So not being a wise *** here, just asking a question. So what if we get beat semi final round. The person that's beats us gets torn down after the final and is not legal...are we back in?

Charley Downing 04-23-2018 07:29 PM
Re: Horsepower on tuesday
 
Mark last time I checked we pay a membership fee for the year and an entry fee at each race for a service. It’s not the racers fault NHRA under staffs these events so the people at the top can have bigger salaries. Please tell me where I slammed the div 1 tech guys

Everett if you get beat in the semis for class by someone that wins and is later tossed do they re run the class final? No, so the eliminator would follow the same outline.

Randy Parker 04-23-2018 10:03 PM
Re: Horsepower on tuesday
 
Johnny Fisher’s old car, crazy fast with a Bruce Parsons bullet. John West Racing Engines, Car owner. And engine builder, assisted by his son David West!

Chuck Beach 04-23-2018 10:48 PM
Re: Horsepower on tuesday
 
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Originally Posted by Allen Sherman (Post 561401)
I wasn’t “trying” to get HP on the combination. I had it weighted down, timing out and other measures trying to run about 1.05-1.10 under, yes I did intend to be number one qualifier because it’s good for business. This was the 9th run ever on the car and it’s been giving us fits. It left extremely lazy and I figured no way it was going fast enough to worry. Unfortunately or fortunately, it seems maybe we fixed the problem we were having in the car and it went faster than I thought. The combination has TONS of untapped potential left so from my standpoint I’m not upset about it because I know we have more left in it, I didn’t intend to ruin it for others or anything like that, but sometimes it happens. Considering it’s been hit with 33hp before I ever touched it I’m definitely not the first one to hit it...lol
I guess if the 'tune up' was this lame then maybe this combo can stand an additional 25 HP on top of the HP added by the 1.20 under.

Allen Sherman 04-23-2018 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck Beach (Post 561537)
I guess if the 'tune up' was this lame then maybe this combo can stand an additional 25 HP on top of the HP added by the 1.20 under.
It’s definitely got a lot of potential from my standpoint. This combination has been run by others since 2014 so it’s not like I just grabbed some new untouched combination. It’s been factored 33hp before I ever touched it. It’s definitly a different animal than some others. I’ve personally been battling the car more than anything and hopefully get it all lined out soon.

PLankford 04-24-2018 09:22 AM
Re: Horsepower on tuesday
 
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Originally Posted by Allen Sherman (Post 561520)
FWIW I’m 110% in agreement with tear downs after a 1.20 or more under run as well as after a win or runner up. That’s what makes stock and super stock racing different than just a bracket race. I take great pride in being able to go fast and be within the rules, so I’m all for making sure all the things we do are done legitimately.
Well, it looks like you are off the hook... Apparently the horsepower increase came from “Virginia” ;)

Allen Sherman 04-24-2018 09:30 AM
Re: Horsepower on tuesday
 
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Originally Posted by PLankford (Post 561564)
Well, it looks like you are off the hook... Apparently the horsepower increase came from “Virginia” ;)
Phil they also added 116hp instead of 16...lol

Dave Casey 04-24-2018 09:31 AM
Re: Horsepower on tuesday
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Everett Vassar (Post 561522)
So not being a wise *** here, just asking a question. So what if we get beat semi final round. The person that's beats us gets torn down after the final and is not legal...are we back in?
In ancient history (70's and 80's) when you won a pts race, the runnerup was asked if they wanted to see the winner torn down. If he did, they took both apart. If you lost in the semis, you did not get anything, even if both were illegal. I won and got torn down, was legal. Everyone knew it could happen.


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