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MR DERBY CITY 10-09-2020 01:02 PM
Re: stockers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by e vassar (Post 625407)
IMO ..we have a group of the most knowledgeable and experienced drivers and class car builders ever assembled right here
So if you're going to accuse people or a whole group of people of cheating, you should list these items here and let the group address them.
Otherwise your just wasting bandwidth.
Ok, I ll bite......you have a bunch of NEWBIES that don’t know OR understand all the rules in stock Eliminator....I had a phone conversation with a SEASONED racer yesterday. He was at the Reynolds open walking through the pits and saw a crank trigger on a stocker.......WTF ?????? Of course TECH is done online as a result of the CHINESE VIRUS so that adds to the fact that many of these new racers are not getting looked at....
I have raced forever and I don’t even know the CURRENT rule on e shift, air shift, electric shift....I have heard some FSS Stockers and even some CARB Stockers have assistance shifting their trans....I do know that e shift is legal on efi combos.....

jeff_kovalik 10-09-2020 01:18 PM
Re: stockers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by e vassar (Post 625407)
IMO ..we have a group of the most knowledgeable and experienced drivers and class car builders ever assembled right here
So if you're going to accuse people or a whole group of people of cheating, you should list these items here and let the group address them.
Otherwise your just wasting bandwidth.
I accused no one of anything. I (and others with me) did observe a decent amount of items that are not legal according to the rules in the Stock Eliminator section of the current NHRA rule book.

That’s the truth and I have the right to share that on this site as a part of this tread that I did not start.

Mike Gray 10-09-2020 01:37 PM
Re: stockers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stock1080 (Post 625331)
Another point, how can a "stocker" engine cost $20k? I just saying, or am I envious?
I been apart a few times and passed, I know I feel ok about my car, and "ok" is good enough for me.
Easy I have already exceeded 20K and I'm not paying anyone to build it. I'm paying for top quality machine work, completed heads and a carb but other than that I'm doing all the work myself. I built a faster super-gas motor based on the same engine for 1/2 the money. If you want to maximize hp on a stocker and run closer to the top the cost go way up.

GUMP 10-09-2020 01:50 PM
Re: stockers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 625410)
.....saw a crank trigger on a stocker.....
Depends on the car. It is legal on a 1992-98 LT motor.

Race Clean 10-09-2020 01:52 PM
Re: stockers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BRETV (Post 625333)
I wish someone would come in as a sponsor and directly pay the tech guys to enforce the rules.

Bret Velde
2003 ??/SA
NHRA would allow that without taking 99% of the sponsor money?:p

GUMP 10-09-2020 01:57 PM
Re: stockers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeff_kovalik (Post 625411)
I (and others with me) did observe a decent amount of items that are not legal according to the rules in the Stock Eliminator section of the current NHRA rule book.
I know that a lot more Stock racers read this site than post on it. I would think that you would be doing a good deed if you posted your observations. You wouldn't have to identify the driver, car, or event. Just point out the infraction.

For example, "No 2013 COPO came with a supercharger".

If we really want to save this class and not hurt feelings at the track protesting everyone, it might be time for a little "self policing"?

e vassar 10-09-2020 02:06 PM
Re: stockers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 625415)
I know that a lot more Stock racers read this site than post on it. I would think that you would be doing a good deed if you posted your observations. You wouldn't have to identify the driver, car, or event. Just point out the infraction.

For example, "No 2013 COPO came with a supercharger".

If we really want to save this class and not hurt feelings at the track protesting everyone, it might be time for a little "self policing"?
That's what I meant to say...

bry-war 10-09-2020 02:19 PM
Re: stockers
 
I see a “keep your tech in check” thread ahead!
But I’d hate to be the only guy racing a particular year, make, model. Compare that to being stuck on an island with shark infested waters. All the more reason to keep it legal.

GTX JOHN 10-09-2020 02:21 PM
Re: stockers
 
I have been racing and collecting cars for the most part of the last
60 years. I know most of the Stock/Superstock Racers in the Western
part of the Country on a first name basis and have for many. years...........
I have not seen any of the Obvious Infractions that people are alleging!!!

This Thread is BS with some significant documentation!!!!!!!!!!!!

Those that Can.......................DO!
Those that Can't.....................THROW MUD!

Billy Nees 10-09-2020 02:43 PM
Re: stockers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bry-war (Post 625420)
But I’d hate to be the only guy racing a particular year, make, model. Compare that to being stuck on an island with shark infested waters.
Why would you say that!?! I would say that it is a distinct advantage.


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