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L Peterson6261 01-19-2023 07:42 PM

Re: No Blinders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adub464Q (Post 674336)
Don’t forget…all stock rules translate to super stock unless otherwise noted.

Therefore, blinders are gone in stock and super stock.

Personally, I’m a BIG FAN.

I'd like to see them do way with reaction times on the time slip also. Does anyone remember back in the '70s when you had to really cut a light without all the electronics?

Hagen Gary 01-19-2023 07:42 PM

Re: No Blinders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 674426)
Hey, I am all for safety . While we are at it how about those guys with 5 or 6 trophy stickers on the windshield remove them. You know, in the name of SAFETY. I won’t dare reveal his name but there is a certain OLD Chevy wagon that must have 15 Trophy decals on his windshield ….The rule book sez the windshield must be CLEAR ….

Soooo, the “No Sandbagging Rule” isn’t real? Could you please quote you the rule you said exist? Some of us who regularly hold 1-2 tenths would like to know exactly what rule we are breaking. Btw, Every rule is not all about safety. Motorsport isn’t exactly the safest activity. This “no blinder” rule is probably has more to do with eliminating driver aids in a class that is more about drivers and less about driving aids. If you need a blinder and can’t hit the bottom bulb, go .90 racing.

MR DERBY CITY 01-19-2023 07:59 PM

Re: No Blinders
 
Well Mr. Gary, I am soooo sorry but I don’t have a current rule book. Back in the day we (the members of NHRA ) actually received a rule book in the mail every year. What a NOVEL idea ? You see there is a difference between you and me. You can hold 3 tenths for all I care !! But heaven forbid if I use a blinder because YOU don’t use one. By the way , I have been searching for the KMA icon….I can’t find it …With Warmest Regards ………M J QUINN.

Hagen Gary 01-19-2023 08:31 PM

Re: No Blinders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 674431)
Well Mr. Gary, I am soooo sorry but I don’t have a current rule book. Back in the day we (the members of NHRA ) actually received a rule book in the mail every year. What a NOVEL idea ? You see there is a difference between you and me. You can hold 3 tenths for all I care !! But heaven forbid if I use a blinder because YOU don’t use one. By the way , I have been searching for the KMA icon….I can’t find it …With Warmest Regards ………M J QUINN.

https://www.nhraracer.com/Files/Tech...k_22_11_08.pdf

There is a link to the rule book, but I’m sure NHRA made another terrible move by providing a digital copy for free to everyone, even non-members, right? Sooo, about that “no sandbagging rule”…

Btw, I don’t care if you use a blinder or not. I didn’t change that rule, I just play by it. Now, the SS/QA rule, I’ll take credit for that one, with the help of Paul Wong. But it was definitely my idea and NHRA listened to a logical argument. I still haven’t heard a logical argument from you about the BS “Sandbagging is Illegal” rule you created in your own head. I’ve provided you with all you need to prove me wrong. Good day sir.

Markeracer 01-19-2023 08:56 PM

Re: No Blinders
 
Yo Ken,

How about creating a blinder poll.

Ok with rule change, or Not happy with rule change.

Jim Caughlin 01-19-2023 09:10 PM

Re: No Blinders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Markeracer (Post 674435)
Yo Ken,

How about creating a blinder poll.

Ok with rule change, or Not happy with rule change.

So just to clarify, you want people who don't run blinders to vote on whether I can run a blinder?

Mark Yacavone 01-19-2023 09:13 PM

Re: No Blinders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 674426)
Hey, I am all for safety . While we are at it how about those guys with 5 or 6 trophy stickers on the windshield remove them. You know, in the name of SAFETY. I won’t dare reveal his name but there is a certain OLD Chevy wagon that must have 15 Trophy decals on his windshield ….The rule book sez the windshield must be CLEAR ….

You are 100% right, big boy.
I'm sure you remember when we had to peel the T's off before the next race..Guys would move them to the tail gate, the door panels, their tool boxes, the back of their helmets, the top of their heads on a sunny day.
The point is everybody knew they had to be removed.
Along comes the no tech tech, and what do you know? Guys abused the rule.
This whole thing might be a reaction, or an overreaction, to a safety rule, brought on by the racers, themselves..

Mike Pearson 01-19-2023 09:14 PM

Re: No Blinders
 
Another dumb rule change by the out of touch NHRA tech department. Blinders have been in use for as long as I can remember and I have been racing a long time. I am not sure what they are trying to accomplish with this rule. I don’t use a blinder but I do blind the tree.

Stan Hawes 01-20-2023 01:57 AM

Re: No Blinders
 
When I started racing in the 50's you watched the starter to see what kind of move he made just before he dropped the flag. Then they brought us the Christmas Tree so you pushed the tree red in time trials and backed off enough to see green. Then they gave us reaction times, This let the starting line ducks see their poor reaction times and other drivers good reaction times. This helped the less intelligent drivers see whey they were getting beat by a slower car. This why I raced stock. It has the most pure driving of any eliminator, no buttons, trans brakes. Now they let the factory race cars computer control the throttle "traction control" which gives them the edge. The blinders are a not going to help a good racer or a poor racer have an advantage. In my mind it is just one more thing to make sure you don't screw up. KEEP IT SIMPLE.

Stan Hawes Retired from driving, more time to bs

Lenny5160 01-20-2023 02:17 AM

Re: No Blinders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jamie2370 (Post 674406)
Any altering of a helmet face shield is illegal as well(like painting the sides and leaving the center open).

There is no rule against this… until the Stock and Super Stock-specific amendments that are the basis of this topic.

In fact, General Regulations 10:7 specifically allows modifications to the helmet shield as long as the driver feels they still have an adequate field of vision.


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