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Billy Nees 03-25-2023 09:52 AM

Re: I need to apologize!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Grant (Post 677924)
Tim, I have waited 20 years to see the 255 competitive again.

Not fer nuthin' but IMHO if I had a 350/255 car I would be getting to work on a set of 350/300 heads. Again, IMHO (and we know what opinions are like) by the end of this year, the 350/255, the '90s LT-1 and the 396/375 will be "not all that competitive" (I don't want to say dead) players.

Doug Hoven 03-25-2023 10:22 AM

Re: I need to apologize!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 677927)
Not fer nuthin' but IMHO if I had a 350/255 car I would be getting to work on a set of 350/300 heads. Again, IMHO (and we know what opinions are like) by the end of this year, the 350/255, the '90s LT-1 and the 396/375 will be "not all that competitive" (I don't want to say dead) players.

IMHO, even if the 255hp combo gets, let’s say 8 hp, that’s only 88lb in F/SA, which in most cars is probably only about a tenth. So the 1.20 under cars become 1.10 under? Before going around saying the sky is falling, it’s always good to make sure it’s not just a little rain. Even if the 255 combo becomes rated higher than the 300, I think a good set of 441 heads will outperform a set of good 461, 186, or 041 heads.

Billy Nees 03-25-2023 10:49 AM

Re: I need to apologize!!
 
What I should have said instead of "not all that competitive" would have been to say "probably not all that capable of winning a heads-up race against a different combo".

442OLDS 03-25-2023 12:45 PM

Re: I need to apologize!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 677930)
What I should have said instead of "not all that competitive" would have been to say "probably not all that capable of winning a heads-up race against a different combo".

No,even with the additional horsepower, they will still have no issues winning heads up races against some combos.

Frank Castros 03-25-2023 03:59 PM

Re: I need to apologize!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 677921)
Frank, you should build a Neon!

Did you post the Stein collage on the HAMB?

I did not. I rarely if ever view The H.A.M.B.

The Neon combination doesn't appeal to me. I like fast cars and there is way too much drama within Stock Eliminator for me these days. Sadly my racing days are over.

Billy Nees 03-25-2023 05:26 PM

Re: I need to apologize!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 677938)
Sadly my racing days are over.

and yet, you HAD to comment about lowering the indexes.

countrypuppy4865 03-25-2023 05:43 PM

Re: I need to apologize!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 677927)
Not fer nuthin' but IMHO if I had a 350/255 car I would be getting to work on a set of 350/300 heads. Again, IMHO (and we know what opinions are like) by the end of this year, the 350/255, the '90s LT-1 and the 396/375 will be "not all that competitive" (I don't want to say dead) players.

Did I miss something for a 90s LT1?

Mike Gray 03-25-2023 05:51 PM

Re: I need to apologize!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Hoven (Post 677928)
IMHO, even if the 255hp combo gets, let’s say 8 hp, that’s only 88lb in F/SA, which in most cars is probably only about a tenth. So the 1.20 under cars become 1.10 under? Before going around saying the sky is falling, it’s always good to make sure it’s not just a little rain. Even if the 255 combo becomes rated higher than the 300, I think a good set of 441 heads will outperform a set of good 461, 186, or 041 heads.

Okay I think your rounding it off and I may need help figuring this out. (I’m a super-gas racer and building a stocker) and I wanted to get this math figured correctly.
If his 1.127 holds as the fastest run and the average is .850 or better he gets 2.25% hit on the 280hp base or 6.3hp that I think is rounded up to 7hp? Then 11.00 x 287 + 170 new weight of 3327 or + 77lbs?
Thanks

Billy Nees 03-25-2023 05:53 PM

Re: I need to apologize!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by countrypuppy4865 (Post 677943)
Did I miss something for a 90s LT1?

:-) No,you didn't. I did. In A Camaro/Firebird.

James Perrone 03-25-2023 06:00 PM

Re: I need to apologize!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Hoven (Post 677928)
IMHO, even if the 255hp combo gets, let’s say 8 hp, that’s only 88lb in F/SA, which in most cars is probably only about a tenth. So the 1.20 under cars become 1.10 under? Before going around saying the sky is falling, it’s always good to make sure it’s not just a little rain. Even if the 255 combo becomes rated higher than the 300, I think a good set of 441 heads will outperform a set of good 461, 186, or 041 heads.

o
Only 88 lbs
Really?
Hears the problem young man.
People spend a lot of time and $ to do these race car things
And I agree It’s your car ..race it how you want .
But when someone’s actions cause harm to other competitors cars and combos
It tends to piss people off .
What’s funny is I know a few people that run this combo but there to polite to complain to the person who causes this possible HP problem
I’ve seen this before when someone is not fast and gets a GOOD PiECE and bangs said combo yet pleads well I didn’t know it would go this fast ..
Well guess what?
This same person will complain about the 88 lbs earned for their decisions to go fast win Class ..And guess what There slow once again.
So when you make a mess of your combo ..you need to clean up your mess
Because you ain’t making friends by making others clean up The Mess


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