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Rory McNeil 09-17-2023 01:22 PM

Re: U/SA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmantle (Post 686197)
Rory, I don't deny the 302 combos needed a little help to be competitive but to put them back to factory was overkill. NHRA has to take into consideration what makes sense and that wasn't done in this case. My car is a natural U car and was competitive in U before the Fords received their big gift. I was one of the lucky ones, 300 lbs of ballast and it's a V car but the other V8 cars didn't have this available to them.

Jim Mantle V/SA 6632

Totally understand your situation Jim, as well as Jacks, and several others. But what about the others, including MoPar and Chevy combos, that have had their rating reduced by much more, in some cases over 50 HP, below factory HP ratings? And many of those are combinations that have been raced for decades, and often near or at the top of the qualifying sheets? As for Marks question about the 255 Ford being rated higher than the 302, yes, that is a really bad combo, the Classification guide is full of really bad combinations, some really god ones, and as Mark, Paul, & Billy tend to dig up, some really interesting, undiscovered ones.

goinbroke2 09-17-2023 06:05 PM

Re: U/SA
 
I had a '80 255 engine core and tore it apart to see the potential.....smaller valves and ports than a 302 if you can believe it!!! 3.68 bore, just a horrible combo. I was racing in Luskville one time and saw a ranger with a "302" in it. Ran 17 seconds and was wondering what was wrong with it. I looked at it and said, see the open valley, seperate ports on that intake? Thats a 255 not a 302. Buddy was bummed, saw it a month or two later and he had replaced it with a roller 5.0. Forget but was in the 13's I think.

Garbage engine.

Should be rated around 75hp. lol!

Jack McCarthy 09-20-2023 12:51 PM

Re: U/SA
 
GTS340 :

if paul builds something im sure he will most likely win. however i went to belle rose with no idea i had a chance to win, but i snuck up on bob shaw and Jim Beam took out daran left me and my ky buddy bear tarrance in the final which i got a lil greedy on the converter and pushed the beams:)

i assure you a usa shootout with you and wong will be even more FUN !!! pat joffrion did a fantastic job for us we pitted together had a cookout each bringing food from home (i brought ky country ham and 6 pints of Jim Beam Black) our time runs were seperate after the hemi shootout pat was one of if not THE best track operator ever !!!

hope to get out to see yall soon miss you tall guy !!

captain

GTS340 09-20-2023 04:47 PM

Re: U/SA
 
Miss you too my Freind.

Paul Haszlauer

GTS340 09-20-2023 04:55 PM

Re: U/SA
 
Jack if you read most threads. Someone mentioned Dan Rehms. Dan is the NHRA gentleman that came to our rescue when the battery was dead on the el camino. Dan came by with that Auto zone hand size box that started it up. Of course you had to let it idle for ever and missed the dial. Vegas baby! "chip and a chair"!

Paul

Rose Racing 09-20-2023 09:29 PM

Re: U/SA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 685778)
I'm not a subscriber of Nitro Joe's Drag Racing Stats. Can anyone tell me how many U/SA racers are actively competing.

Thank you in advance for your consideration and reply.

Frank

+1 come next season in Div 3 when Holbrook is done with my FFFFord. I am creeping up on a roller currently. This winter I need to get it wired and painted after we get engine and trans installed and I am hoping to be at the first D3 race of 2024. Is this U/SA shootout happening? I would be a player as long as its somewhere in the midwest. I think the National Open at Earlville in September would be a good location or the Fall Classic at Indy in October. Just thinking out loud for someone who was pretty young in 2004 when the Belle Rose event took place.Alex Denysenko told me stories about that race when planning this build with him back a few years ago

Jack McCarthy 09-21-2023 03:15 PM

Re: U/SA
 
IF we have a shootout id think at least a dozen players we had 8 first t one and thats was before several new cars were built. im ok with earlville or fall classic as long as it is an open so no hp hits. i know the buths are building one itll be fast.

i ran the last shootout and pat and i got along great id think someone else will need to take the lead on this as nhra and i are on thin ice i understand pat c hates me i MF him every chance i get.

the guy who has summertons olds wagon your gonna need to drink a lot to replace him.
we made tshirts last time i can do that

lets go

Mark Yacavone 09-21-2023 09:56 PM

Re: U/SA
 
This is getting interesting..and I do like a challenge.
So, what year was the last one? I seem to remember it was a CIC deal.
I just happen to know a Comp driver, too. Depending on where and when.
Who's going to take the lead here?

bigshow2966 09-23-2023 01:25 AM

Re: U/SA
 
According to DRC Freeman has the Taxi in U this weekend.

Jack McCarthy 09-24-2023 06:07 PM

Re: U/SA
 
yac, setting it up wont be like l;ast time 2004 no cic. mj pointed out last night that pats race wasnt an open it was the sportsnats therefore already set up for class eliminations. getting a race to accomodate us without any additional cost might not be a slam dunk.
we laddered off two Q runs, pat had bands paid by beer companies each night, we had our cookout and summerton drowning, hell nitro joe was dancing in the bar first night... this one made towing 900 miles well worth it most fun race ive ever attended and i usually find a good time.

we had $1200 added tueton, my calendar sales, fulper all chucked up a few bucks. autometer, k&n and jegs gave $100 gift cards.

life was good until -004 final :)

i guess if enough of you slow guys think its a good idea i can try to take care of it .


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