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Re: New Classes in Stock AAA/SA, AAA/S and FS/AAA

Wow, I had hoped that transitioning from top dragster and comp to a different class would lead to some more friendly competition. I'm one of those individuals who has moved up into stock racing. My primary reason is that I am much more comfortable with the bottom bulb and prefer racing without any electronic aids. Additionally, I have grandchildren who are eager to race, and I don't feel comfortable putting them in dragsters at this time.

Now, regarding front-wheel drives, I'm not sure why some people believe it's an inexpensive option. It took me six months to source legal pistons, for a BF/S class. Furthermore, I've had to add 400 lbs to my car because it's a natural “A “car. The car is 20 lbs from B. Despite these efforts, it's nearly impossible to get anywhere close to A weight .

The front-wheel drive setup is far from cheap. I'll have invested a lot in my transmission about the same high-quality three-speed transmission. Hence, front-wheel drive racing is neither inexpensive nor easy. Nevertheless, there is a reward, as for now, it's fast.

In conclusion, I believe that everyone should focus on their own cars and be grateful that we have a place to race. Let's appreciate the opportunity to compete and continue to work on perfecting our own vehicles.

Re: New Classes in Stock AAA/SA, AAA/S and FS/AAA

I wonder if someone will build a 68 Hemi dart, or possibly 69 AMX. Maybe a few new combinations will open up from this AAA class

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Originally Posted by Greg Hogue (Post 690755)

Furthermore, I've had to add 400 lbs to my car because it's a natural “A “car. The car is 20 lbs from B. Despite these efforts, it's nearly impossible to get anywhere close to A weight .

A perfectly good reason why there needs to be at least a couple more FWD classes!

And NHRA, would you please try to get the manufacturers to put more FWD combos in the guide?

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Originally Posted by Todd Hoven (Post 690757)

I wonder if someone will build a 68 Hemi dart, or possibly 69 AMX. Maybe a few new combinations will open up from this AAA class

There is/was a 69 AMX in Div 1 a couple of yearsago - believe car was sold - don't know where it is

Re: New Classes in Stock AAA/SA, AAA/S and FS/AAA

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 690732)

Hey, tuff guy! Just where do you think the next generation is coming from! IF there is going to BE a next generation! Do you think that they're going to just hit up their Daddys up for a $100K car?
Yes they're "entry level" but not for the reasons that you think. You can go to any shop in the country and buy all of the pieces to put together a big-block Camaro and if you've got a little bit of tuning talent you can get it to run pretty well OR you can buy the tuning talent just like you bought all of the pieces for the car! They're "entry level" because you can't BUY ANYTHING for them, you've got to make the stuff and improvise.

You apparently DO "mind" FWD having said what you just said.

The "idea" of a "Dime Rocket" is (for me) to keep people in this game. Some time, you should get off of your "safe" combos (solid-lifter big-blocks and 327/275s) and try something difficult like a 307 Chevy or a 301 Pontiac (or an easy FWD combo) and see how that works for you.
I could be racing some of the combos that I have out in my big garage but I choose to spend my time trying to show potential Racers how they can compete and be competitive on a budget. But I guess that if I had done some of this stuff and told the readers how expensive it was going to be then you'd be OK with it?

Where did you see anything about FWD Racers not wanting heads-up runs? I wrote in one of my "build" threads that I hope that there would be 20 of those cars built. And I still do! And where exactly did I say that I want Stick combos running heads-up against Auto combos? I said that combining sticks and autos would make more common sense than combining RWDs and FWDs. Don't put words in my mouth!
What business is it of yours where I buy my car or what I paid for it and whether I buy "high end" parts (that don't exist anyway) or not! If the combo is in the guide and is built within the rules (probably more so than most BB and 327/275 Camaros) then we have a "level playing field". You can "make the investment" however you would like.

I'm not going to tell you how to spend your money but seeing as we're talking about "NHRA Stock Eliminator" here, please show me how and why "Stock Eliminator" heads and intakes are worth so much today? Why do the indexes need to be moved to keep these higher HP combos from having to slow down to keep from getting HP hits? Why do these higher HP combos suddenly "need" aftermarket heads and carbs and blocks that aren't available to the lower HP combos and FWDs?

It seems from where I'm sitting that you are one of the Racers wanting "diversity, equity and inclusion" here. The underclassmen aren't the ones shouting for all of the change! We just want a FAIR place to race!

What young person is going to build a 301 pontiac or a 307 chevy? What young person is going to want to run a 17 second fwd 4 door car? I'm closer to 21 than you by a large margin and none of my friends have intrest in that.

You want to really do something to toot your class racer horn go out by a newer 17+ camaro challenger mustang of your choice DRIVE it to 5 divisionals and 3 nationals AND BE COMPETITIVE. I know your going to say BuT ThAtS nOt a DiMe RoCkEt, well it's relatable and most people in America can get a car loan.

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Originally Posted by James Hill (Post 690762)

Well James, I suggested that only one person try a 307 or a 301. I certainly wouldn't suggest that a young person try it.
I'm gonna guess that a young person who wants to be involved in any kind of racing would jump at the chance to race anything that someone would put that young person in or that they could afford. If that young person wants to be "fussy" then they must not want to race that badly.
I don't need to "toot my class racer horn". I'm OK with the things that I've accomplished. At this point in my life, I'm good with trying to get others involved. If I wanted a new car, I'd have one. The "Dime Rocket" thing is just something I do to try and get people and young people involved who don't want or can't afford a car loan.

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How many young racers want to pay for an over priced membership, class number and entry fees. If they get passed that. They can afford a newer car too.there are no new less expensive combos in the books though..

Paul Haszlauer

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Originally Posted by GTS340 (Post 690765)

Paul, these are some of the reasons why we'll soon be extinct. I think I'll keep trying to get new people involved though.

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Originally Posted by GTS340 (Post 690765)

This is a good point, that I have tried to make in the past.

If a new racer can afford all this, plus $15 -$20 fuel, plus traveling 300-500 miles to Divisionals out here, then they can probably afford something that gives them a boot in the ***** and does a big wheelie.

Re: New Classes in Stock AAA/SA, AAA/S and FS/AAA

Someone suggested Junior Stock be re-designated and it seems like a good idea to me.