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1320racer 09-10-2024 10:37 AM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
Nope, telling it like it is, the TRUTH and the FACTS!

What those guys did in no way effected 99.99% of those posting here and when those guys stage their car again, 99.9% of those posting here will not be in the other lane EVER!

Jeff Stout 09-10-2024 10:44 AM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 702703)
Nope, telling it like it is, the TRUTH and the FACTS!

What those guys did in no way effects 99.99% of those posting here.

Including you?

1320racer 09-10-2024 10:47 AM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
Correct but unlike most of the comments here, I applauded those guys, they played the gray area of the rule book and will continue to do so!

As the OP stated...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph Lily (Post 702515)
Much more successful to cheat and win and pay the fine.


Frank Castros 09-10-2024 11:32 AM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
You willingness to cheat to win displays a total lack of integrity and says much about your character as a man.

1320racer 09-10-2024 11:35 AM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
As previously stated...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 702597)
No doubt, because you're incapable to winning straight up.

You can say the same about many of your heros and competitors :p

Larry Hill 09-10-2024 11:35 AM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
My disappointment is with the punishment or lack of.

1320racer 09-10-2024 11:41 AM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
why?

The NHRA fined them as they saw fit, docked them points and changed the pulley size. Racing goes on!!

But

1. It doesn't effect you.
2. you don't race that class.
3. you have no say in how the NHRA conducts business.

There are no victims here only willing participants.

That said, I've learned long ago that we are here for a good time, not a long time and I'm not going to waste my time, my life trying to change things I think are wrong, especially if it doesn't effect me directly!

James Perrone 09-10-2024 12:41 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 702712)
why?

The NHRA fined them as they saw fit, docked them points and changed the pulley size. Racing goes on!!

But

1. It doesn't effect you.
2. you don't race that class.
3. you have no say in how the NHRA conducts business.

There are no victims here only willing participants.

That said, I've learned long ago that we are here for a good time, not a long time and I'm not going to waste my time, my life trying to change things I think are wrong, especially if it doesn't effect me directly!

Yes this does affect us
Nhra has gotten soft as they explained that there not looking to throw out people
Here?s the problem Ed
Rule is rules they should be followed
The old standard was you got some time off for blatant illegal offenses
6 months to one year
Nhra is not policing at that standard anymore
So is the same standard for us common folks ?
Who pay professional engine builders to make sure we are good
The factory on x and shootout classes are sportsman classes
I feel bad for anyone who lost to these cars that were caught
Carry on

1320racer 09-10-2024 02:17 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
James, while I agree with your comments about the NHRA, we'll agree to disagree that this particular rules infraction in this class and NHRA's response to it, effects you.

That said, I don't feel bad for anyone that lost to these guys/cars, as I stated, there are no victims here only willing participants. Do you think the next time they are in the opposite lane anyone of their competitors is going to refuse to run them? The answer is not one!

Mike Gray 09-10-2024 03:06 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
I'm more confused, did they make larger pulleys or just claim the wrong engine?
Both are wrong and is not a gray area but cheating. One can be "oops used wrong note" the other is blatant in your face cheating to win and deserves a much harsher penalty.

NHRA Technical Specifications
For
2019 Chevrolet Motors


Issued: 1/26/19 PC
Revised: 2/14/19 PC 1/1/20 PC, 2/12/2020, 1/1/21, 2/12/2020, 1/5/2021, 4/23/21, 6/29/2021, 12/3/21, 12/16/21, 9/18/22, 1/1/2023

HP Disp C.R. Ind. Make Model/Transmission Manifold R.R. Lifter Head Notes



600 350 12.50 Supercharged Magnuson 60-02-00-015 1.80 H/R 66.0 2,3,6,7,A

630 350 12.50 Supercharged Magnuson 60-02-00-015 1.90 S/R 66.0 2,4,6,7,A

Notes

3 = Supercharged Magnuson pn# 50-00-26-002 3.350 inch pulley, lower pulley 8.00, jackshaft pulley 32 teeth, rotor pulley 34 teeth

4 = Supercharged Magnuson pn# 50-00-26-002 3.350 inch pulley, lower pulley 8.00, jackshaft pulley 34 teeth, rotor pulley 32 teeth


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