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X-TECH MAN 12-16-2010 12:56 PM

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 
Great post and it hits the nail on the head BUT we all know this wont happen. To many are wussies and will not bitch to NHRA......They just raise hell on the forum. Just like when they jack up the entry fees yet the fields fill up almost before they open. Sheep.....Baaaaaaaaaaaaaa !

Dave Ribeiro 12-16-2010 03:27 PM

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 
Terry,

It's called Testing, lets see how much water the balloon can hold before it breaks or we have to fix it ? Lets see how much they can take , before we give them some crumbs ? Over the last 10-20 years, everything has increased , except the payouts !!!

" Happy Holidays " I think ?

X-TECH MAN 12-16-2010 03:33 PM

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And a Merry Christmas to you and your family Dave. My balloon broke when the new stuff didnt get put into their own class....LOL.

Greg Hill 12-16-2010 08:49 PM

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 
I started this thread a few days ago and I have one change I would like to make about how the new cars are going to affect our racing this year. Andrew and I are going to join IHRA in January and support them by going to some races this coming year. If you don't like how you are being treated at NHRA let's give IHRA some support and see what happens. We will have to go farther but we are going to do it.

Andrew Hill 12-16-2010 09:22 PM

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 228428)
I started this thread a few days ago and I have one change I would like to make about how the new cars are going to affect our racing this year. Andrew and I are going to join IHRA in January and support them by going to some races this coming year. If you don't like how you are being treated at NHRA let's give IHRA some support and see what happens. We will have to go farther but we are going to do it.

Hey, I was going to talk to you about that when I got home. Sounds like an awesome idea to me!

Mark Callanan 12-16-2010 09:44 PM

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 228428)
I started this thread a few days ago and I have one change I would like to make about how the new cars are going to affect our racing this year. Andrew and I are going to join IHRA in January and support them by going to some races this coming year. If you don't like how you are being treated at NHRA let's give IHRA some support and see what happens. We will have to go farther but we are going to do it.


Greg
How is it better in IHRA?
Unless they get their own class to run in or they change the bogus factor I dont see how it is any better at all....
They may not affect the Carb cars but the FI cars still have to deal with them and their complete bogus factor

Bruce Witherspoon 12-16-2010 09:49 PM

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Hill (Post 228435)
Hey, I was going to talk to you about that when I got home. Sounds like an awesome idea to me!

Greg, I am about to do the same. Fortunately for us Yankees there are a few more races close.

Myron Piatek 12-16-2010 10:18 PM

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mark callanan (Post 228440)
Greg
How is it better in IHRA?
Unless they get their own class to run in or they change the bogus factor I dont see how it is any better at all....
They may not affect the Carb cars but the FI cars still have to deal with them and their complete bogus factor


IHRA already has a "new car only" AA/FI class.
They should be able to continue along that line with BB/FI, CC/FI, etc. since there are now a wider variety of those cars. Let's hope they do.

Dave Ribeiro 12-17-2010 12:46 AM

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 
Greg & Andrew ,

IHRA is not perfect , but the people are very supportive of sportsmen
racers ... You will find a big difference on how you are treated at the races by everyone ... I think you will find it more like what NHRA
use to be like ... Remember when Racing use to be Fun, win or lose, just being treated like a Sportsmen Racer ... I think that's what you will find at the IHRA races , give them a chance you won't be Sorry ... As you know it's all about having choices where you can race, not where you have to race ... As you see they are trying to keep the costs down for racers in these Tough times ...
Try it you might just like racing again , people are great and can't help you enough... I think everyone should try IHRA and see for themselves what they are all about ... You will be surprised at how much of a difference it is ... Step up and see ...
I don't think there's a right or wrong answer here , it's about where you choose to spend your money ... Enjoy, you be the judge on where you race ... " Happy Holidays "

Mark Callanan 12-17-2010 06:10 AM

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Myron Piatek (Post 228446)
IHRA already has a "new car only" AA/FI class.
They should be able to continue along that line with BB/FI, CC/FI, etc. since there are now a wider variety of those cars. Let's hope they do.

So the only cars that run in that new class are the DP cars and the New Mustangs?
No other or older cars in that class?
And also are the new cars limited to that class?
If so congrats to IHRA I hadn't seen that....

Greg Hill 12-17-2010 09:33 AM

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 
From the things I've seen lately IHRA seems to be much more supportive of sportsman racing than NHRA. One of the things holding them back is lack of contingency money. Even though I don't do this for the money it would be nice to get paid a little something when you win a race. Let sponsors know how you feel about this. It could make a difference. I think the lack of contingency has reallly depressed their car counts in the last couple of years.

One other thing we all can do is support our local combo races. For me it's Ohio Valley and Bowling Green. We need to be pro active and make sure there is more than one place for us to race.

Greg Hill 12-17-2010 09:39 AM

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Hill (Post 228435)
Hey, I was going to talk to you about that when I got home. Sounds like an awesome idea to me!

Andrew you need to be studying instead of hanging out on classracer.

danny waters sr 12-17-2010 09:45 AM

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 
I think if more racers supported IHRA (NHRA ) sportsman races that the contengency $$$ would follow.If you were a contengency sponsor ,would'nt you want to see a lot of participants at the races ? Maybe they will step up if we step up ..........I would love to see more cars run with us..

RJ Sledge 12-17-2010 10:11 AM

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 
Hey Greg, give the kid a break, he's suppose to be drinking beer, hanging with his buds, sleeping late and chasing girls. Hell thats what college is for. Lighten up a little!

Merry Christmas Pal

RJ

Ed Wright 12-17-2010 12:31 PM

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danny waters sr (Post 228498)
I think if more racers supported IHRA (NHRA ) sportsman races that the contengency $$$ would follow.If you were a contengency sponsor ,would'nt you want to see a lot of participants at the races ? Maybe they will step up if we step up ..........I would love to see more cars run with us..

I agree. I like running both. Hard to imagine where everybody is at the IHRA races. Same guys I run at NHRA races, just not near all of them. Friendly officials and workers, same rules (SS anyway) the money spends. We talk about it in the lanes, and nobody seems to have an answer. We have a blast, same as at the NHRA races. Seems a tad more laid back. I have small tires, and I can't tell a bit of difference in track prep. I just don't know.

Mike Carr 12-17-2010 12:53 PM

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mark callanan (Post 228479)
So the only cars that run in that new class are the DP cars and the New Mustangs?
No other or older cars in that class?
And also are the new cars limited to that class?
If so congrats to IHRA I hadn't seen that....

Mark, in the summer of 2009, IHRA created AA/FI.

7/29/09

Addition to Fuel Injection Classes: AA/FI and AA/FIA are added to the class structure for Stock Eliminator. The 2 classes are reserved for 2008 and later accepted factory muscle cars. No existing FI cars may remove weight and enter this class.

Class Break is 7.50 to 7.99. Class Index is 10.85 1/4 mile and 7.00 1/8 mile.

This was when there were only the 6.1 Hemi DP and the 425 hp blown CJ's. Now, with all the other engines available, maybe there will a BB, CC, DD, etc FI class.

George Wright 12-17-2010 03:39 PM

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 
We ran AA/FI at the 2009 IHRA Northern Nationals at Martin, Michigan. We were runner up in Stock. Here is a YouTube video posted by a spectator at the race. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IalhnETZetk

Harry 6674 12-17-2010 03:48 PM

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 
With that many classes avoiding the chances of a heads up looks good.

ALMACK 12-17-2010 07:17 PM

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 228496)
From the things I've seen lately IHRA seems to be much more supportive of sportsman racing than NHRA. One of the things holding them back is lack of contingency money. Even though I don't do this for the money it would be nice to get paid a little something when you win a race. Let sponsors know how you feel about this. It could make a difference. I think the lack of contingency has reallly depressed their car counts in the last couple of years.

One other thing we all can do is support our local combo races. For me it's Ohio Valley and Bowling Green. We need to be pro active and make sure there is more than one place for us to race.

We plan on being at OV in 2011 with the Pure Stocker and hopefully the C/M car as well.
Too bad BB won't allow IHRA cars tho. :(

Greg Hill 12-18-2010 06:32 PM

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by R J Sledge (Post 228501)
Hey Greg, give the kid a break, he's suppose to be drinking beer, hanging with his buds, sleeping late and chasing girls. Hell thats what college is for. Lighten up a little!

Merry Christmas Pal

RJ

Merry Christmas RJ, I'm a little bit sad today after losing our friend Ronnie, but I picked Andrew up at Notre Dame today and brought him home so I'm happy about that. As far as knowing what college is for i'm afraid he's figured it out his first semester.

Greg Hill 12-18-2010 06:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 228589)
We plan on being at OV in 2011 with the Pure Stocker and hopefully the C/M car as well.
Too bad BB won't allow IHRA cars tho. :(

Alan Bowling Green will allow IHRA cars like cm cars or pure stock. I think the confusion may be that cars that have an NHRA class must run that class with NHRA indexes and hp factors in Bowling Green. If you have a problem find me and we will go and talk to Clay.

ALMACK 12-18-2010 06:44 PM

Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 228765)
Alan Bowling Green will allow IHRA cars like cm cars or pure stock. I think the confusion may be that cars that have an NHRA class must run that class with NHRA indexes and hp factors in Bowling Green. If you have a problem find me and we will go and talk to Clay.

Thanks Greg.
When I was there in August, the guy organizing the combo tech cards in the tower told me only IHRA cars that have an equivalent NHRA class, but must run NHRA indexes.
I really hope you are right about the CM and PS cars, because I would love to run at BB in the P/Stocker. :)


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