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Well, it was the middle of June before I found a final round Pontiac appearance. Peter was RU at the Pontiac Excitement Nats. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2004#indextop Unless Pontiacs won a lot of smaller races, it was a bad year for Pontiac Super Stockers. :( So, I'll add 2005 results to this post. Decided to look at a qualifying list. At Phoenix, Ken Shawver was #6 @ - 1.080. And, there were several Pontiacs running below their index. So, the Pontiacs were running OK. But the drivers were not putting together enuff good packages to win a lot of rounds. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2005#indextop OK, at the Mile-High Nats, Carroll Warling was #14 @ - 1.113. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2005#indextop He made it to the semi, then cut a slow light. But hey, we've all done it. For whatever reason, you just can't cut a great light every single pass. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2005#indextop At the Sports Nats, Ken Shawver was #10 @ - 1.072. I've said it before. But this has to be one of the best running Pontiac powered SS cars of all time. It consistently qualified well, for a lot of years. Peter Biondo is on the Q-list. Russ Abrams is also listed, with a '91 GT/FA Bird. I think he ran a '73 SD455 Bird. So, does anybody know if this GT Bird was Pontiac powered ? https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2005#indextop Peter won this race, with a .008 light ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2005#indextop That's it for 2005. Without the div race results, and results from open races, Stock/SS combo races, and all other races which involved Pontiac SS cars, the race info is very limited. So, again I ask, is there some online source for these race results that I don't know about. The reason I keep asking these questions is because I assume that some of you guys may know of race info sources that I am not aware of. |
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2006
At Phoenix, Keri Angeles ran a 9.76, & Don Kennedy ran a 9.85. Joel Larkin was also on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop Peter won the Gators ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop At the Spring Nats, J.B. Clegg ran a 10.40 & won his SS/JA class. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop At Vegas, Keri was #19 @ - 1.047. Don Kennedy was .977 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop At this Carquest Nats race, Ken Shawver was #2 @ - 1.098. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop This reminds me of something I've seen in recent years. Nowadays there are LOTS of quick Stockers that can run quick enuff to run under their SS index. And I've seen some Pontiac Stockers do just that. As long as they don't have to make a heads-up run, they can win the SS race, while running in legal Stock form. This is the earliest race I've run across, where a Pontiac Stocker ran SS. Have run across several races from the early 2000's where some events would run either Stock or SS, but not both. So, for those who had Stockers that would run under their SS index, if their was a nearby race they wanted to run, that was running SS, but not Stock, they could simply enter their Stocker, in the SS class. That's exactly what happened at this Sonoma race. Leo Glasbrenner entered his Stock '68 Bird, in SS/JA class. Was #49 @ -.264. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop He actually made it to the 4th round. Was beat by the eventual winner. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop At the Northern Sports Nats, Ken Shawver was #4 @ - 1.095. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop I thought this Q-list was very interesting. They must have had very good air. LOTS of cars were more than a sec under. Sal Piacentini was #23 @ - 1.057. Another interesting entry was Al Vanis, in a '77 Bird. Al had won the US Nats in Stock, in a Pontiac powered Ventura, back in 1974. Also won a nat event at Englishtown in '03, in a '77 Lemans. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop Also had some good air at Vegas, Carroll Warling was #9 @ - 1.310. Don Kennedy was #43 @ - 1.160. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop |
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2007
At Englishtown, Sal Piacentini was #21 @ - 1.023. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2007#indextop He made it to the semi, where he got treed, with a .007. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2007#indextop At Norwalk, Monte Howard drove Ken Shawver's '78 T/A to #24 @ - 1.029. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2007#indextop Lot's of quick cars at the Mile-High Nats again. Carroll Warling was #7 @ - 1.303. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2007#indextop At the Northern Sports Nats, Monte Howard was #40 @ - 1.068. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2007#indextop He Made it to the semi, and cut a great .004 light, but went too quick. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2007#indextop At the Torco Nats, Sal Piacentini was #13 @ - 1.053. And looks like Peter was back in the Hatari Bird with a #14 @ - 1.050. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2007#indextop At the Fall Vegas race, Carroll Warling was #10 @ - 1.267. Don Kennedy was #42 @ - 1.130. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2007#indextop Several quick Pontiacs, but no race winners. |
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At Pomona, Don Kennedy was #18 @ - 1.051. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop At the Spring Vegas race, Don K. was #16 @ - 1.105. Keri Angeles, Joel Larkin, & Art Peterson were also on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop At the Spring Nats, Johnny Duncan was #53 @ -.860. Since somebody said he always ran a Pontiac engine, I assume this '95 Bird had one. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop At the Route 66 Nats, Jeremy Duncan was #19 @ -.919, in a 4th gen Bird. So, since he is from the same home town, can I assume that Jeremy is Johnny's son, & therefore the car was Pontiac powered ? :confused: https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop At Englishtown, Sal Piacentini was #21 @ - 1.055. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop At Norwalk, Monte Howard was #17 @ -.934. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop Wow ! At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll Warling was #2 @ - 1.437. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop At the Toyo Nats, Sal P. was #26 @ - 1.018. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop At the Carolina Nats, Sal P. was #16 @ - 1.012. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop At the Fall Vegas race, Carroll was #6 @ - 1.362. Keri was #54 @ -1.068. Don K. was #68 @ -.996. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop At the Pomona Finals, Keri was #30 @ -.976. Stacy McCarty was #36 @ -.926. I tried to find a pic of Sal's car to post. The only one I found was on a site that won't let you download their pics. But, it appeared to be a '77 Gold Formula. I ASSUME it is the same car that Mike Morgan has now, which has 350 Pontiac power. |
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Just a little trivia phil monteith was one of the first racers to deep stage back in the sixties early 70's in his 69 ra4 firebird
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Phil's 1st car was a new 63 4cyl tempest followed by a 65 gto tripower automatic convertible
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I think I read that Nunzi has a '63 Tempest, with one of those in it, which has run 11.70. Engine supposedly has all factory parts. Here's a short article about Nunzi. I have no idea if any of the stuff mentioned is true, or not. Maybe others here know. http://www.nunzipontiac.com/about.html http://www.nunzipontiac.com/videos.html |
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2009
At the Cajun Sports Nats, John & J.B. Clegg got their '74 Bird running a bit better. It was #33 @ - 1.067. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop At Fontana, Ryan Schloe was #24 @ -.852. The reason I mention this is because I have him listed driving an early 2nd gen in Stock, in other years. And, we all know that some guys/families switch their cars from Stock to SS. And, some use the same car, but put on different body parts, so it'll pass as a different year model. Then, most Pontiacs get passed around from one Pontiac racer to the next. With all this in mind, who knows the story on this particular Bird, which is listed as a SS/IA '71 Formula. It's running quicker than his Stocker. So, is it the same body he was running ? Did he switch over to the 455HO engine ? https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop I'll just take time here to ask about SS tires & suspension. We all know that there are currently lots of Stockers running quicker than 10.00, with legal 9" tires. So, obviously, many SS cars that run slower than 10.00, can get by with 9" tires. And, if they're the GM leaf spring F-body cars, they can get by with the CalTrac bars, rather than going to narrowed rears, tubs, big tires, & some sort of ladder bar or 4-link set-up. But, I still see some 10 sec SS Pontiacs running big tires. Since the low 10 sec Stockers hook up enuff to do huge wheelies, and some need wheelie bars on the back, why do guys still feel the need to run huge tires ? Wouldn't the cars actually run slightly quicker, using the 9" tires ? Sorry for the dummy question. But hey, if you don't know something, you just don't know. At the Midwest Nats, Bill Rink was #12 @ - 1.010. I suppose Bill has the quickest '74 GTO straight SS car ever, by far. I think he has posted that he switched the car over from Stock, because NHRA had added so much hp to it. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop At the Thunder Valley Nats, Johnny Duncan & Peter Biondo are near the bottom of the list. I assume the 2000 Bird Peter was driving is the Hatari car, with a 428 engine. Does anybody know when the Hatari was switched over from the 400, to the 428 ? Has it ever had a 455 in it ? https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop At the Summer Nats, Carroll Warling was #3 @ - 1.163. Billy Ingels was #40. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop At the Route 66 Nats, Bill Rink was #19 @ - 1.068. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop At Englishtown, Sal P. was #19 @ -.949. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll Warling was #3 @ - 1.347, with his '74 GA. Not only was this car a nat record holder, I suppose it was one of the quickest Pontiacs ever, against it's index. Don't know what a list of the top 10 or 20 Pontiacs would look like, if listed by the numbers they ran, in competition, against their index. I suppose there were a few which did, or at least COULD have run more than 1.5 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop At the Toyo Nats, Vic Santos was #33 @ -.883. Sal P. was #37 @ -.867. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop At the Fall Nats, J.B. Clegg was #35 @ -.895. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop At the Northern Sports Nats, Bill Rink was #30 @ - 1.064. Bill Eadelis was #89. There ain't very many SS GTO's left. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop At the Pomona Finals, Ryan Schloe was #47 @ -.740. Joel Larkin was next, at #48 @ -.733. Art Peterson was also on the list, with his '69 GTO. As far as I know, it is the only '69 GTO I know of that has been in active competition, in recent years. I know of a couple of '68's that ran Stock. Hey, back in the day, there were lot's of '69's in action, especially Judge models. But, it's all just part of Pontiac history, now. :( https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop |
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Hatari won all world championships with 400. Steel headed 428 2009
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I thought all the 428 guys were using the NHRA legal alum E-heads. I know that Norman posted that Carroll is building an iron head 428. |
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Well ya'll, I'll have to tell on myself now. I don't know if I can blame old age, or just lack of computer skills.
But, I was almost thru with 2010 race results, when I had to take a break. So, I THOUGHT I hit minimize. But, when I came back, to continue, that tab was gone. I suppose I accidentally hit the X, instead of the minimize. Anybody else ever do that ? Anyhow, because of this, from now on, I'll post a very small amount, then edit and add a little more, and so on, til the post is complete. So, when ya'll see a very short post, with only a very few results, just know that the post is not complete, and I'll be adding more to it. 2010 At the Winter Nats, looks like Art Peterson had the only Pontiac powered car on the SS list. It's the only '69 GTO I know of that has been in either Stock or SS competition, this century. If ya'll know of others, please post that info. Back in the day, there were lots of '69 GTO's in competition, especially Judge models, sponsored by Pontiac dealers. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop Looks like Joel Larkin had the only Pontiac on the SS list at the AZ Nats. I can remember lots of races we entered where we had the only Pontiacs. That was just part of it, for us. Just made winning a little better. :) https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop At the Cajun Sports Nats, J.B. Clegg showed up with a stick Bird. I suppose that was the 1st year that '74 had run a stick. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop At the 4-Wide Nats, Peter was #2 @ - 1.022. Due to info just posted, I assume the engine was an iron head 428. Sal P. was #46 @ -.699. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop Sal made it to round 4, where he left a tick too quick. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop Peter made it to round 5, where he got treed. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop At the Spring Vegas race, Don Kennedy was #22 @ -.781. Joel & Ryan were on the lower half of the list. John Angeles was also on the list, driving a '69 Bird. For those who may not know, John co-wrote a couple of books on Pontiac performance & racing. His '69 RAIV Bird was said to be the 1st reg SS Pontiac 400 powered car to dip below 10-flat. His daughter, Keri, was driving on that occasion. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop Ryan made it to the semi, but cut a bad light. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop At the Midwest Nats, Greg Meyer was #7 @ -.899. Lynn McCarty was #55. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop At Fontana, Keri was #20 @ -.571. Ryan & Joel were on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop At Topeka, Carroll was #16 @ -.800. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop |
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2010 contd.
At the Route 66 Nats, Greg Meyer was #19 @ -.792. Monte Howard was #28 @ -.692. Peter was #50. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop At Englishtown, Vic Santos was #16 @ -.834. Peter was #43. Sal P. was #56. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop At Norwalk, Peter was #18 @ -.697. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop Peter made it to the semi, where he cut a better light but went a tick too quick. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop At Sonoma, looks like Joel Larkin was the only Pontiac on the list. I assume that most Pontiac guys who have raced very long at all, have experienced that. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll was #3 @ - 1.131. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop At the Lucas Oil Nats, Greg Meyer was #12 @ -.721. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop At the O'Reilly Nats, Stacy McCarty was #20 @ -.753. Peter was #28. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop At the Northern Sports Nats, Stacy McCarty was #39 @ -.789. Johnny Duncan was #92. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop At the Toyo Nats, Sal P. was #48 @ -.462. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop At the Vegas Nats, Carroll was #5 @ - 1.162. Don K. was #28 @ -.944. Art Peterson was also on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop At the Pomona Finals, John Angeles was #37 @ -.697. Ryan Schloe was #52. Joel Larkin was #57. Art Peterson was #68. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop Art made it to round 4. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop |
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Below are some pics we took at the Cajun Nats, back around 1978. There was a white SS/K T/A there, wearing "For Sale" signs. So, does anybody know who owned this car, who bought it, and any of the rest of it's history ? 41 is a div 4 number. Anybody know if John Clegg had anything to do with this car ? OR ??? :confused: |
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2011
At Pomona, Keri was #33 @ -.641. Ryan & Art were also on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop At the Gators, Peter qualified slow, but won the race ! :) https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop At Belle Rose, J. B. dipped into the 9's, with his stick Bird ! Was this the 1st reg SS 455 powered Pontiac in the 9's ? If not, what car was, & when ? https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop At the Spring Vegas race, Don K. was #4 @ -.845. I suppose Robert Cruzen had the 428 in his Cobalt at this race. He was #6 @ -.826. Keri & Art were also on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop At Fontana, Don K. was #9 @ -.810. Keri, Ryan & Joel were on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop At Topeka, Bill Rink was #6 @ -.749. Carroll was #14. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop At Englishtown, Sal P. was #18 @ -.769. Peter was lower on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop |
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2011 contd.
At Bristol, Peter lost to a .002 light. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop At Norwalk, Stacy McCarty was #6 @ -.877. Greg Meyer was #24 @ -.699. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop At the Route 66 Nats, Stacy was #10 @ -.872. Greg was #25 @ -.745. Casey McCarty was #49. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop At Sonoma, Keri's 9.84 was only good enuff for #21 on the Q-list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop At the Northern Sports Nats, Bill Rink was #5 @ -.986. Johnny Duncan was #66. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop At the Auto-Plus Nats, Peter was #19 @ -.917. Sal P. was #45. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop Peter got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop At the AZ Nats, Don K. was #4 @ -.866. Peter was #10 @ -.720. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop Peter had mechanical problems & had to settle for RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop At the Fall Vegas Race, Don K. was #8 @ - 1.031. Robert C. was #9 @ - 1.029. Ryan, Art, Keri, & Peter were lower on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop And Peter won another one ! :) https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop At the Pomona Finals, Peter was #16 @ -.845. Robert C. was #20 @ -.820. Ryan was #29 @ -.766. Art & Keri were also on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop So, unless I missed somebody, there were 8 reg SS Pontiacs entered in Nat events that season. They were driven by Keri Angeles Pari, Art Peterson, Sal Piacentini, Carroll Warling, Ryan Schloe, Joel Larkin, Bill Rink, & J.B. Clegg. There were 7 Pontiac powered GT cars that were driven by: Johnny Duncan, Peter Biondo, Don Kennedy, Greg Meyer, Stacy McCarty, Casey McCarty, & Robert Cruzen. I may have missed a car or 2. I know that in years just prior to this, John Angeles & Monte Howard were on some nat event Q-lists, as was Vic Santos. I'll look back over recent years, & get names of some I left our here, then edit & include them. I realize there may be some Pontiac powered SS racers that didn't get any or very much mention, because I had only nat event results. But, beginning for the 2012 season, DRC has results of div races also. And again, if ya'll know of Pontiac SS cars that did good at races I don't mention, please post that info. |
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2012
At Pomona, Ryan Schole was #26 @ -.718. Peter was #38 @ -.621. Art was #48 @ -.514. Joel was #52. Keri was #55. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Peter broke, in round 6, & had to settle for a 3rd place finish. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At the AZ Nats, Peter was #17 @ -.764. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Peter got treed in the semi & had to settle for another 3rd place finish. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop OK, since we'll now have results from the Lucas Oil Series div races, I'll try to list them with there div number, followed by a dash, followed by the season sequence number. So, this race will be called the LOS 7-1 race, since it is in div 7 & is the 1st LOS race of the season. In case of rainouts, sometimes the sequence numbers may not be in the correct order. This shorter race ID will require less time & space. So @ LOS 7-1, Don K. was #3 @ -.925. Ryan was #28 @ -.605. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 7-2, Don K. was #2 @ -.949. Ryan was #32 @ -.608. Robert was #43, & Art was #45. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 4-1, J.B. was #22 @ -.682. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At the Cajun Sports Nats, J.B. was #61 @ -.636. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 7-3, Robert was #2 @ - 1.001. Don K. was #6 @ -.905. Leo Glasbrenner was #14 @ -.826. Don't know if Leo had Pontiac power at that time, or not. Who knows ? Ryan was #34 @ -.600. Art was #61. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Don K. won that race ! :) https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At the Spring Vegas race, Don K. was #3 @ -.947. Ryan was #29 @ -.697. Art was #54. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At the 4-wide Nats, Peter was #63. It seems that for some races, Peter uses the strategy of his rival, Dan Fletcher, by purposely qualifying low. I know this is a Pontiac thread, But since I've been lookin up race results, Dan Fletcher is the name that has popped up, most often, in the later rounds of races. I assume he has an awesome list of racing accomplishments. I'm sure that everybody who has kept up with Stock/SS racing knows about Dan. But, I'm just getting a look at some of what he did. So, at some point, I'll probably do some research & get all the info on his racing career. But, that's for another time, & perhaps another thread. This thread is for Pontiac powered SS cars. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Gonna start skipping a lot of races, unless there is a Pontiac that qualifies well, or one that makes it to at least the semi. @ LOS 3-1, Bill Rink was #6 @ -.980. Stacy was #12 @ -.955. Monte was #42 @ -.800. Greg was #44 @ -.793. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 5-1, Robert was #5 @ -.782. Bill was #12 @ -.668. Carroll was #14 @ -.651. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Robert was beaten by his son, in the semi. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 3-2, Greg was #39 @ -.724. Johnny Duncan was #66. But the reason I'm including this Q-list is because of the next 2 cars. The 1st is a 1970 GTO, driven by Bill Eadelis. How long has it been since ya'll saw a '70 GTO SS car, before this one ? The other car is what I think is an SD455 powered '73 auto trans SS Bird, driven by Russ Abrams. I know that Bob Michael & Don K. ran one. Who has run one, in this century ? Maybe there is one, or some, that I don't know about. Those SD455 parts are so rare & expensive now, it's not likely that anybody else will try to build a SD455 powered SS car, in the future. Don't know if any of the GT guys will run one in the future, or not. I suppose that for many guys with enuff money to do this, a rare expensive set of head cores is not a problem. So, maybe we WILL continue to see a few SD455 headed engines on the track. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 1-2, Vic Santos was#12 @ -.851. Don K. was #14 @ -.822. Sal P. was #61. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Well, that gets us thru May of 2012. Again, if any of ya'll know of Pontiac wins at other races during the season, please post that info. |
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At Englishtown, Don K. was #7 @ -.981. Peter was #21 @ -.869. Sal P. was #74. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Peter & Don K. both got their class win. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 5-3, Carroll Warling was #1 @ - 1.063. Don K. was #2 @ -.974. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Don K. made it to the semi. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At Bristol, Peter was #6 & won the race ! :) https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 1-3, Vic Santos was #1 @ -.899. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 1-4, Vic was again #1, this time @ - 1.082. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 7-5, Don K. was #3 @ -.914. Keri was #19. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 5-4, Carroll was #3 @ -.991. Bill Rink was #9 @ -.894. Greg Meyer was #28. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 5-6, Robert Cruzen was #3 @ -.990. Greg was #21 @ -.845. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At the Northern Sports Nats, Bill Rink was #17 @ -.938. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At the Auto-Plus Nats, Sal P. was #31 @ -.634. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At Top Sportsman Pacific Sports Nats, Robert Cruzen was #1 @ - 1.002. Don K. was #5 @ -.930. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At the Big O Tires Nats, Don K. was #8 @ -.958. Robert was #10 @ -.937. Other Pontiacs on the list were Ryan Schloe #54, J.B. #60, Keri #66, & Art #76. Leo Glasbrenner was on the list. But, his car was listed as having a 350 engine. Since he's raced Pontiac powered cars, I'd assumed that his 4th gen Bird GT car had Pontiac power. But, now I'm more inclined to believe that the 350 mentioned was probably a Chevy 350, that was in the car when he bought it. But, that is mere speculation on my part. If anybody here knows for sure what brand of 350 was in his GT car, at this race, please post that info. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 7-6, Don K. was #5 @ -.974. Robert was #8 @ -.928. Ryan was #47, Keri #48, & J.B. #50. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At the Pomona Finals, Robert was #9 @ -.888. Ryan was #35 @ -.612. Keri was #37 @ -.597.Joel was #48 @ -.472. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop That wraps up 2012, with what I found. Looks like Don K. raced from coast to coast that year. |
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At the Winter Nats, Robert was #3 @ -.959. Leo was #28 @ -.631. He'd moved up several classes, so I assume he'd swapped over to Pontiac power. Joel, Art, & Keri were also on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At the AZ Nats, Robert was #4 @ -.935. Don K. was #5 @ .928. Leo was #32 @ -.624. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 7-1, Robert was #1 @ - 1.032. Don K. was #12 @ -.869. Leo was #38 @ -.669. Joel was #49. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 7-2, Robert was #1 @ -.936. Don K. was #6 @ -.821. Leo Was #30 @ -.651. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop Robert lost in the semi, when his opponent cut a .001 light. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 2-2, Peter was #17 @ -.912, & won the race ! :) https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop At the Gators, Peter was #47 @ -.712. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 7-3, Don K. was #2 @ -.947. Robert was #3 @ -.940. Leo was #27, Ryan #36, & Keri #53. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop Robert won this one ! :) https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop At the Vegas Summit Nats, Don K. was #1 @ -.951, Robert was #2 @ -.947. That's pretty cool. Pontiac power was #1 & #2 at a nat event ! :cool: Leo was #34 @ -.688. Keri was #61. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop A the 4-Wide Nats, Peter was #26 & got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 5-1 Carroll was #4 @ -.941 & got 3rd. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop That's about it thru May. That year there were very few Pontiac SS cars running in the East. And none in the Northwest. Can't think of any in div 2 or 6 that year. I think J.B. had the only one in div 4. Carroll may have had the only one in div 5. Hey, I could be wrong, again. |
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@ LOS 3-3, Bill Rink was #15 @ -.914. Greg Meyer was #26 @ -.825. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 7-4, Leo was #2 @ -.773. Robert Cruzen was #4 @ -.669. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop Leo got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 1-3, Vic Santos was #6 @ -.892, in a '78 Bird, running GT/IA. I was only familiar with his 3rd gen Bird GT car. So, who knows what other Pontiacs Vic has raced ? https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop Vic went a tick too quick, in the semi. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 5-3, Carroll was #1 @ -.978. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop At the New England Nats, Vic Santos was #3 @ - 1.024. Peter was #26 @ -.646. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 3-4, Bill Rink was #10 @ -.860. Greg Meyer was #15 @ -.776. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll was #3 @ -.926, in GT/MA. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 1-4, Vic Santos was #3 @ -.842. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop At the Lucas Oil Nats, Greg Meyer was #11 @ -.753. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop Greg had to settle for 3rd place at this race, because his semifinal opponent cut a perfect .000 light. And check this out. That guy had cut a .001 light the previous round, then cut a .005 light, to win the final. Now that was an impressive 3-round string of lights ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 5-5, Robert Cruzen was #4 @ -.791. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop Robert was RU at this race. He was beat by the awesome Dan Fletcher. Check out some of Dan's lights, .005, .010, .012, .017, .020 ! He keeps showin up at all the big races, plus many of the div races, from coast to coast. He either had lots of frequent flyer miles, or flew on private jets. Don't think a guy could make that many races, traveling by land. He'd stay wore out all the time. And he ran Stock & SS. So, I assume that others got the cars to the tracks, & he just flew in, to do the driving. If he traveled by land to all those races, he's almost super-human, IMO. Maybe some here can give us more insight. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 5-6, Greg Meyer was #12 @ -.784. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 1-7, Vic Santos was #9 @ -.956. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop At the Northern Sports Nats, Bill Rink was #23 @ -.891, in a 99 car field. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 7-6, Carroll was #1 @ - 1.033. Leo was #7 @ -.796. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 4-6, Robert Cruzen was #8 @ -.681. Leo was #11 @ -.625. Must have been some really bad air and/or track conditions that day. Some of the reg SS guys couldn't even run their index. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop Robert got a 3rd place finish. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop At the Pacific Sports Nats, Don K. was #5 @ -.976. Robert was #6 @ -.949. Leo was #17 @ -.840. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop At the Toyota Nats, Don K. was #6 @ -.972. Robert was #8 @ -.959. Leo was #22 @ -.862. Carroll was #26 @ -.834. Peter was #27 @ -.830. John Angeles was #67. Art was #88. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop John made it to round 3, Carroll to E-4 & Peter to E-5. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 7-7, Don K. was #3 @ -.977. Robert was #7 @ -.939. Leo was #50. Keri was #54. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop Robert made it to round 5. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop At the Pomona Finals. Robert was #6 @ -.904. Leo was #15 @ -.852. Peter was #39. Keri was #43. Art was #55. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop In 2013, while Robert & Don K. were running strong on the West coast, Vic Santos was running strong on the East coast. And, I just noticed a pic of the car from 2002. It has Santos & Ribeiro on the side, & Dean Ribeiro on the window. I suppose that means that Dean drove the car for a while. I've seen his name on several of the DRC lists. I knew Dave raced Pontiacs. Just never made the connection between Dean & Vic. So, after I get caught up thru 2019, I'll go back & see if I can find some results for the car, when Dean was driving. |
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2014
At the Winter Nats, Leo was #13 @ -.855. Peter was #28 @ -.728. Keri was #45. Joel was #49. Art was #52. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the Carquest Nats, Don K. was #4 @ -.946. Leo was #17 @ -.792. Peter was #36. Robert must have had problems, since he was #52. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 7-1, Don K. was #3 @ -.909. Robert was #15 @ -.792. Leo was #24 @ -.727. Peter was #27. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop It was an all-Pontiac powered final, with Peter over Robert. Leo made it to E-4. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 7-2, Don K. was #1 @ -.992. Robert was #19, Peter #20, Leo #22, Keri #40, 7 Art #43. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop Art made the semi. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the Vegas Summit Nats, Don K. was #4 @ -.991. Robert was #13 @ -.918. Leo was #26 @ -.770. Peter was #30, Art #45, & Keri #47. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 1-1, Wilbert Thornton was #21 @ -.688. He had the only Pontiac I saw on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 2-4, Peter Was #32, & won the race ! :) https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 5-1, Carroll was #4 @ -.937. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 1-2, Peter picked up another win ! :) https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 5-3, Carroll was #1 @ - 1.006. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop He made the semi, but left one bulb too soon. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 7-3, Robert was #3 @ -.850. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the New England Nats, Vic Santos was #2 @ -.995. Peter was #16. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 6-4, Carroll was #1 @ -.918, & got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop That gets us thru June. There were several races where Pontiacs were in the middle or toward the bottom of the Q-list, which I didn't include, because the Pontiacs didn't make it to the later rounds. |
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2014 contd.
@ LOS 6-5, Leo was #10, @ -.842. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll was #1 @ -.863. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 1-4, Vic Santos was #1 @ - 1.087, and got a #3 finish. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 7-4, Robert was #6 @ -.888. Leo was #15 @ -.751. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop Leo got a 3rd place finish, & Robert made the 4th round. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 3-4, I'll mention 2 names that were in #56 & #66 positions. They are Johnny Duncan & Bill Eadelis. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop Johnny made it to round 3, & Bill to E-2. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the Sonoma Nats, Robert was #3 @ -.887, & made it to round 4. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 5-4, Carroll was #9 @ -.687. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the Lucas Oil Nats, Greg Meyer was #6 @ -.861. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 5-5, Carroll was #7 @ -.750. Robert was #9 @ -.740. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 1-7, Peter was #33, & got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 5-6, Carroll was #9 @ -.974, and made it to the semi. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the Northern Sports Nats, Bill Rink was #27 @ -.852. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 7-5, Carroll was #2 @ -.882. Leo was #6. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop Carroll made the semi. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the Vegas Sports Nats, Leo was #11 @ -.780. Peter was #20. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the Toyota Nats, Don K. was #18 @ -.943. Carroll was #33 @ -.874. Leo was #43. Peter was #47. Keri was #79. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 7-7, Don K. was #9 @ -.990. Carroll was #18 @ -.911. Peter was #30 @ -.841. Leo was #61. Art was #71. Keri was #78. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the Pomona Finals, Leo was #35 @ -.753. Peter was #41, Art was #53, Keri was #57. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop |
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So, from the results I've seen, here is a list, in no particular order, of the drivers of the quickest V8 Pontiac powered Super Stock cars of 2014. Some run low 9's. Some run 10's. The slower cars have run well against their index.
(1) Don Kennedy (2) Robert Cruzen (3) Leo Glasbrenner (4) Peter Biondo (5) Vic Santos (6) Greg Meyer (7) Carroll Warling [8) Bill Rink (9) Keri Angeles Pari. (10) J.B. Clegg I suppose, as of today, the last 2 names are the only ones on this list associated with 9 sec non-GT Pontiacs. Keri has run the '69 RAIV Bird well into the 9's. And, as we'll see from results from later years, J.B. has driven both a '73 & '74 SD455 Bird well into the 9's. Because there are several Pontiac Stockers that have run real low 10's, it shouldn't be big problem, at all, to get those cars into the 9's, if taking advantage of the SS rules. I suppose there just hasn't been anybody intersted in doing that, yet. I'd love to see some D-port head, non-GT Pontiacs into the 9's. There are several Pontiac guys around nowadays, who could pull it off. All that's needed is somebody with the money, who wants to do it. Just guessing that several Pontiac guys would be happy to help with such a project. So, somebody do it, already ! If I win one of the BIG lotteries, I'll put up the money for the build, myself. :) I realize that all these numbers mean very little, to nothing, to most non-Pontiac folks, since there are other brands that will run quicker, in almost any class a Pontiac can run in. But, because Pontiacs make up such a very small percentage of SS cars, to me, that makes it real special when I see a Pontiac that gets a class win over other brands, or sets a nat record in classes dominated by Chevy, or other brands. I suppose it's part minority brand pride, and part just because I've always loved Pontiacs. :) |
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At the Winter Nats, Peter is #22. Keri & Art are on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Carquest Nats, Don K. was #11 & Peter was #12. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 7-1, Don K. was #6 @ -.851. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Summit Nats, Don K. was #4 @ -.944. Peter & Leo are on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 7-2, Don K. was #1 @ -.990. Leo & Keri were on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Spring Nats, J.B. Clegg ran a 9.917 in his SD455 powered '74 stick Bird. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 5-1, Carroll was #5 @ -.872. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Kansas Nats, Bill Rink was #4 @ - 1.032. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 7-3, Leo was #14 @ -.709. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At Fontana, Leo was #21 & Keri was #29. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At Englishtown, I think Sam Biondo was driving the Hatari Bird. #19 @ -.817. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 3-3, Greg Meyer was #13 @ -.863. Bill Rink was #32. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the New England Nats, Vic Santos was #1 @ -.996. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 4-2, Robert Cruzen was #1, @ -.944. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 5-3, Carroll was #1 @ - 1.052. Scott Burton also got his GT/GA '91 Bird going. He was #7 @ -.728. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 1-3, Vic Santos was #2 @ - 1.010. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 6-3, Carrol was #1 @ -.987, and got a 3rd place finish. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop That takes us thru June. |
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2015 contd.
At Norwalk, Bill Rink was #24 @ -.761. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Route 66 Nats, Greg Meyer was #17 @ -.829. Bill Rink was #18 @ -.823. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll was #1 @ - 1.017. Brad was driving the Burton GT Bird. #11. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 1-4, Vic Santos was #3 @ -.987. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 3-5, Greg Meyer was #14 @ -.847. Mike Morgan was then running what I assume is the former Sal Piacentini '77 Bird. #16 @ -.845. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 5-4, Bill Rink was #1 @ - 1.042. carroll was #6 @ -.878. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 1-6, Sam Biondo was #23 @ -.785. John Agneta was #32 @ -.718, in what I was told was Johnny Duncan's car. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Summit Nats, Greg Meyer was #3 @ -.969. Bill Rink was #12 @ -.823. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 5-6, Bill Rink was #6 @ -.974. Carroll was #8 @ -.950. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 7-5, Carroll was #2 @ -.965. Brad Burton was #11 @ -.743. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 7-6, Carroll was #1 @ -.970. Brad was lower on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 4-6, Robert Cruzen was #4 @ -.898. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Toyota Nats, Robert Cruzen was #5 @ - 1.122. brad & Keri were lower on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop @ LOS 7-7, Robert was #25 @ -.898. Brad was #26 @ -.885. Leo was #36 @ -.844. Keri was also on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At the Pomona Finals, Robert was #5 @ - 1.009. Leo, Art, & Keri are lower on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop That wraps up 2015. Still several quick Pontiacs out there. Gotta be a good bracket racer, nowadays, to win Stock & SS races, because there are just not that many same class, heads-up races. Gotta cut consistently good lights & run consistent ET's. But, I don't have to tell you guys that. I like to check out the RT's of the guys who consistently make it to the final rounds. Can't often win a round, with a slow light, unless the other guy really messes up. But, the dial-your-own deal is what keeps most guys racing Stock/SS/brackets. If the quickest car always won, only the very richest racers would win. They'd buy the best parts & hire the best people, to produce the quickest car. I reckin that's the basic difference between Stock/SS and the Pro classes. I've heard lots of guys say how much they don't like breakout racing. They seem to feel macho when they say they only do heads-up racing. Problem with that is that MOST of 'em don't have enuff money to build a winning heads-up car. Just thinkin out loud. Please forgive. |
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2016
At the Winter Nats, Leo was #26 @ -.781. Brad Burton was #37, Art was #51. Keri was #53. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Carquest Nats, Leo was #25 @ -.760. Don K. was #33. Brad was #38. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 4-1, J.B. ripped off a 9.739 in his SD455 stick Bird, to get #29 @ -.811. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 7-1, Don K. was #8 @ -.862. Brad was #20 @ -.773. Leo was #23 @ -.750. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 7-2, Don K. was #5 @ -.915. Brad was #17 @ -.804. Keri was #44. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Gators, Sam Biondo was #31 @ -.728. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Spring Vegas race, Don K, was #11 @ -.943. Brad was #28 @ -.777. Leo was #38. Keri was #53. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 4-2, J. B. was #24 @ -.797. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Spring Nats, J.B. was #16 @ -.734. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 6-1, Brad was #6 @ -.842. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 3-1, Mike Morgan was #34 @ -.676. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Kansas Nats, Robert was #1 @ - 1.016. Scott was #23 @ -.760. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 4-3, J.B. was #19 @ -.773. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 7-3, Don K. was #5 @ -.849. Leo was #17 @ -.655. Keri was #26. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop Leo got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 3-2, Mike Morgan was #27 @ -.814. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 1-2, Sam Biondo was #13 @ -.818. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Jegs Sports Nats, Greg Meyer was #12 @ -.962. Scott was #36 @ -.890. Monte Howard was #72 @ -.740. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the New England Nats, Dean Ribeiro was #4 @ - 1.012. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS, Carroll was #7 @ -.914. Scott was #11 @ -.896. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 3-3, Greg Meyer was #4 @ -.896. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 5-2, Scott was #2 @ -.994. Carroll was #3 @ -.979. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Summer Nats, Sam Biondo was #20 @ -.930. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop That gets us thru June. |
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At the Route 66 Nats, Greg Meyer was #5 @ -.915. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll was #5 @ -.815. Brad was #15. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 1-4, Vic Santos was #2 @ -.980. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 7-4, Leo was #8 @ -.823. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Sonoma Nats, Leo was #15 @ -.720. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 5-3, Carroll was #12 @ -.796. Robert Cruzen was #18 @ -.715. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop Robert made the semi, where, for whatever reason, cut a real slow light. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop LOS 5-4 was a doubleheader race, behind 5-3. Carroll & Robert were #12 & #24 this time. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 5-5, Greg was #5 @ -.782. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Lucas Oil Nats, Greg was #2 @ -.878. Bill Rink was #6 @ -.797. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 1-6, John Agneta was #17 @ -.781. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 5-6, Carroll was #5 @ -.981. Greg was #11 @ -.906. Robert was #18 @ -.767. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 6-6, Leo was #5 @ -.758. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Carolina Nats, Peter was #30 @ -.694, & won the race ! :) https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Midwest Nats, Mike Morgan was #8 @ -.961. Greg was #20 @ -.872. Bill Rink was #23 @ -.843. Looks like Peter had problems. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 7-5, Don K. was #3 @ -.854. Carroll was #4 @ -.836. Leo was #17 @ -.596. Looks like Brad had problems in qualifying. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop LOS 7-6 was the 2nd race of a doubleheader. Carroll was #2 @ -.970. Brad was #14 @ -.769. Don K. was #29. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Dodge Nats, Sam Biondo was #12 @ -.779. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 4-6, Robert was #13 @ -.836, & got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 7-2 make-up race, Leo got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop @ LOS 7-7, Robert was #8 @ -.933, Don K. was #13 @ -.890. Keri was #29 @ -.811. Scott was #45 @ -.697. Leo was #51 @ -.629. Larry Maxwell was #90. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop At the Pomona Finals, Brad was #22 @ -.811. Keri was #26 @ -.736. Leo was #31 @ -.706. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop That's a wrap for 2016. As always, info about additional Pontiac V8 powered wins, not covered here, is welcome. Still several quick Pontiacs. In today's competitive racing, it takes exceptionally good drivers to go rounds & win races. That's why the really good drivers have lots of div & nat event wins, during their racing career. I think this is the 1st time Larry Maxwell's GT car has turned up on a list I posted. To me, it's a very interesting build. The car is a '68 Bird. Looks like it could be a Stocker. And, it was apparently built to run just a hair under it's index. Has a Pontiac 350 for power. Just presumption on my part, but I assume that the 350 is all a planned part of the build, so that a big-tire set-up won't be needed. Yes, I know that Bill Rink & Mike Morgan are going quick with Pontiac 350's. But, Larry's 350 build is different. Dan Fletcher has proven, beyond any shadow of doubt, that you can win races without being the quickest car in your class. On almost every list I've seen him on, which is now quite a large number, he is very near the bottom, just a safe distance below his index. But, who knows, Larry may be planning a quicker set-up, at some point. |
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At the Winter Nats, Leo was #12 @ -.829. Keri was #21 @ -.741. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the AZ Nats, Don K. was #3 @ -.935. Brad was #17 @ -.838. Leo was #25 @ -.769. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 7-1, Don K. was #3 @ -.902. Brad was #10 @ -.825. Leo was #29 @ -.675. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 4-1, J.B. was #21 @ -.812. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Vegas Spring race. Robert was #1 @ - 1.094. Don K. was #3 @ -.908. Brad was #6 @ -.876. Leo was #18 @ -.733. Keri was #39. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop Brad made it to the semi. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 7-2, Robert was #4 @ -.962. Don K. was #6 @ -.925. Brad was #14 @ -.857. Leo was #25 @ -.776. Keri was #49. Larry was #65. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Spring Nats, J.B. was #20 @ -.671. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the 4-Wide Nats, Peter was #28 @ -.693, & won the race ! :) https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 4-3, J.B. was #19 @ -.671. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 6-1, Brad was #6 @ -.825. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At Topeka, Robert was #4 @ -.875. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 7-3 Leo was #14 @ -.660. Keri was #31. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 1-2, Bill Kennedy was #8 @ -.898. I think he was driving the former Vic Santos car. Think he had his '83 305 Bird for sale, after he bought the Santos Bird, and actually raced both for a short period. But, I'm sure some of ya'll know more about that than I do. Anyhow, John Agneta was #64 at this race. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 5-1, Robert was #2 @ -.981. Carroll was #3 @ -.902. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At Englishtown, Bill Kennedy was #3 @ -.987. Sam Biondo was #13 @ -.883. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 5-2, Robert was #1 @ -.958. Carroll was #2 @ -.923. Scott was #6 @ -.612. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 4-4, Robert was #5 @ -.923. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop That's it thru June. Still a few Pontiacs qualifying at or very near the top of the list. |
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@ LOS 1-3, Bill Kennedy was #7 @ -.816. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Route 66 Nats, Brad was #12 @ -.843. Greg was #14 @ -.833. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll was #5 @ -.905. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 7-4, Brad was #12 @ -.842. Leo was #13 @ -.819. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop Brad got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Sonoma Nats, Brad was #2 @ -.969. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 5-3, Carroll was #8 @ -.815. Robert was #20 @ -.715. Jack Good was #38 @ -.510. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 5-4, Robert was #5 @ -.892. Carroll was #13 @ -.842. Jack Good was #35 @ -.550. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 3-5, Mike Morgan was #9 @ -.880. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 3-6, Mike Morgan was #34 @ -.700. Jack Good was #61. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Northwest Nats, Brad was #3 @ -.893. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop He got 3rd. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 5-5, Bill was #3 @ -.978. Greg was #12 @ -.690. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Lucas Oil Nats, Bill Rink was #2 @ -.954. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 6-5, Brad was #9 @ -.864. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 1-6, John Agneta was #27 @ -.702. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 3-7, Bill Rink was #3 @ - 1.082. Don K. was #23 @ -.912. Jack Good was #61 @ -.700. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 5-6, Robert was #3 @ -.932. Greg was #6 @ -.918. Carroll was #11 @ -.852. Bill Rink was #19 @ -.788. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 7-5 Brad was #4 @ -.861. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Dodge Nats, Sam Biondo was #18 @ -.731. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Midwest Nats, Mike Morgan was #17 @ -.912. Bill Rink was #21 @ -.895. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Texas Fall Nats, J.B. was #28 @ -.735. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 3-4, Greg was #9 @ -.957. And, I think Todd Frantz now had a 428 powered Cobalt. He was #13 @ -.902. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Toyota Nats, Robert was #7 @ - 1.033. Leo was #33 @ -.780. Carroll was #38 @ -.769. Keri was #53 @ -.655. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 2-7, Wilbert Thornton was #30 @ -.731. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop @ LOS 7-7, Brad was #32 @ -.827. Robert was #35 @ -.806. Leo was #46 @ -.719. Larry Maxwell was #80. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop At the Pomona Finals, Robert was #29 @ -.773. Leo was #40 @ -.638. Keri was number #51, with a 9.956. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop And Robert ended the season with a big win at Pomona ! :) https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop |
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For those who don't like lots of race results, bear with me. Only 2 seasons left, and we'll be caught up. I've really enjoyed lookin at all these results. Have learned some things I didn't know. At the Winter Nats, Leo was #8 @ -.938. Keri was #49. Lindy Lindholm ran his '74 Bird Stocker, in SS at thie race. Was #61. There are lots of today's Stockers that are quick enuff to run under their SS index. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the AZ Nats, Leo was #13 @ -.845. Brad was number 42. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 4-1, J.B. was still running 9.70's with the '74 SD455 stick Bird @ #18. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 2-2, Bill Kennedy was #22 @ -.859. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Gators, Bill K. was #16 @ -.973. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 4-2, J.B. had dropped the SD455 Bird into the 9.60's, for #13 @ -.908. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Vegas Spring race, Carroll was #22 @ -.782. Leo was #23 @ -.780. Brad was #34 @ -.691. Larry was #58. Lindy was #59. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop Brad got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Spring Nats, J.B. was #12 @ -.924. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 7-2, Leo was #13 @ -.868. Brad was #25 @ -.751. Larry was #55. Lindy was #57. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 1-1, Bill K, was #8 @ - 1.004. Wilbert Thornton was #34 @ -.775. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 7-3, Leo was #12 @ -.712. Lindy was #40. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At Topeka, Robert was #3 @ -.878. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Jegs Sports Nats, Don K. was #28 @ -.841. Mike Morgan was #33 @ -.832. Bill Rink was #36 @ -.826. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 1-2, Bill K. was #9 @ -.818. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Route 66 Nats, Greg was #17 @ -.810. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 4-5, Robert was #2 @ -.937. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 5-1, Robert was #2 @ -.875. Scott was #7 @ -.706. Carroll was #9 @ -.629. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop Robert got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS, Bill K. was #12 @ -.779. Peter was #32 @ -.554. John Agneta is also on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop That takes us thru June. For any who don't know, here was Lindy's Stocker Bird, which he ran a few times in SS, & was latter stolen. |
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@ LOS 1-4, Bill K. was #6 @ -.845. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 3-3, Greg Meyer was #13 @ -.896. Mike Morgan #22 @ -.857. Don K. was #37 @ -.783. Russ Abrams was #84, in a '91 GT Bird. So, I'll ask again, does anybody know if this car had Pontiac power ? https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 3-4, Greg was #9 @ -.833. Mike Morgan was #10 @ -.828. Bill Rink was #21 @ -.728. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop Greg got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll was #9 @ -.640. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 7-4, Brad was #20 @ -.571. Lindy was #35. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Sonoma Nats, Brad was #18 @ -.704. Lindy was #37 https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 5-2, Bill Rink was #6 @ -.937. Robert was #33 @ -.637. Carroll was #40. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 5-3, Bill Rink was #6 @ -.812. Robert was #22 @ -.601. Carroll was #44. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Northwest Nats, Brad was #11 @ -.735. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 1-4 Bill K. was #4 @ -.888. John Agneta was #22 @ -.681. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop Bill got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 5-4, Bill Rink was #7 @ -.811. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Lucas Oil Nats, Bill Rink was #5 @ -.886. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 1-6, Bill K. was #3 @ -.905. John Agneta was #12 @ -.797. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Dodge Nats, Bill K. was #6 @ -.882. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 6-5, Brad was #10 @ -.831. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Midwest Nats, Greg was #11 @ -.824. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 7-5, Scott was #3 @ -.799. Leo was #16 @ -.590. Larry was #25. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop And Leo got the win ! :) https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 7-6, Scott was #5 @ -.782. Leo was #14 @ -.588. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop Scott was RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 3-5, Don K. was #25 @ -.870. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 5-5, Bill Rink was #4 @ -.945. Scott was #19 @ -.804. Carroll was #25 @ -.696. Robert was #31 @ -.662. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 5-6, Bill was #5 @ -.863. Scott was #15 @ -.776. Robert was #29 @ -.603. Carroll was #32 @ -.558. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Texas Fall Nats, J.B. was #19 @ -.662. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 3-6, Greg was #8 @ -.914. Bill Rink was #10 @ -.901. Mike Morgan was #17 @ -.837. Todd Frantz was #29 @ -.756. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Fall Vegas race, Robert was #5 @ -.971. Scott was #26 @ -.823. Bill Rink was #33 @ -.779. Carroll was #36 @ -.746. Leo was #48 @ -.659. Keri was #58. Larry was #64. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop @ LOS 7-7, Robert was #2 @ - 1.089. Scott was #24 @ -.859. Bill Rink was #46 @ -.742. Leo was #52 @ -.692. Larry was #74. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the Pomona Finals, Brad was #19 @ -.811. Bill Rink was #23 @ -.790. Leo was #31 @ -.726. Keri was #43 @ -.493. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop That's a wrap, for 2018. Keri drove just one of the Pontiacs that switched over from reg SS, to GT. Since so many reg SS cars have done it, there must be one or more advantages. |
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I run my 91 Formula as a GT/FA with an oval port 454 Chevy engine . The 1973 Formula I have has always run a 455 SD , since I bought the car in 1982 . That car was orginally purchased by Rock Running . Basically a race car its entire life .
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You mentioned Rock Running. I'm always interested in knowing why so many guys who have raced Pontiacs for a good while have switched to other brands. Some say it's just because Chevy parts are so much cheaper, so many shops know how to build 'em, & that good factory Pontiac parts are now hard to find & expensive. But, many of the Pontiacs I've mentioned here have proven that some Pontiac combinations are quite competitive. And, a "Pontiac" engine can now be built without using any original GM parts. The block can be aftermarket, at least for 400 & larger engines. The 428's can use alum E-heads. And the Q-jet can also be Edelbrock. And, I assume that a Pontiac engine can be run in most any GM body. The Cobalts I've mentioned are examples. So, a guy with a good Chevy bodied car, could run a Pontiac engine, in GT. I love the GT rules. As all here know, unless you're building a "dime rocket", any competitive SS car will cost big bucks. And many here probably go racing in high dollar rigs. So, even if a Pontiac would cost a few thousand more to build, that would not be a problem for most who can afford do this type of racing. Just a casual observation. |
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OK, this season will catch us up on recent Pontiac SS race results, which are available on DRC. At the Winter Nats, Leo was #22 @ -.825. Larry Maxwell got his '68 Gt Bird down into 10's for a #45 position. J.B. Clegg got the #48 position, in John's original '73 SD455 Bird. Art Peterson was #57. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop I think the rebuild of the Clegg '73 SD455 Bird made it's debut at the 2018 US Nats, with a 9.746, good enuff to make the field. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop At the AZ Nats, Leo was #19 @ -.634. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 7-1, Leo was #18 @ -.689. Larry was #28. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ the Baby Gators, Scott was #25 @ -.891. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop At the Gators, Scott was #36 @ -.707. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop At the Vegas Spring race, Brad was #25 @ -.731. Leo was #31 @ -.642. Larry was #52. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 7-2, Brad was #37 @ -.699. Leo was #43 @ -.635. Keri was #61. Larry was #75. Lindy was #78. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 6-1, Brad was #8 @ -.919. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 3-1, Todd Frantz was #5 @ -.915. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 3-2, Todd was #5 @ -.939. Bill K. was #27 @ -.688. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 7-3, Leo was #22 @ -.619. Keri was #36. Larry was #40. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 1-1, Bill K. was #31 @ -.754. John Agneta was #42 @ -.689. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop At the Route 66 Nats, Greg was #20 @ -.836. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop At the Heartland Nats, Robert was #6 @ -.889. Scott was #19 @ -.759. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 1-2, Bill K. was #18 @ -.648. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 5-1, Robert was #1 @ -.993. Scott was #4 @ -.897. Carroll was #13. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop It was an All-Pontiac final, with Carroll over Scott ! Have I mentioned that I LOVE All-Pontiac finals ? :) https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 1-3, Bill K. was #23 @ -.688. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop That gets us thru June. As usual, I didn't list all the nat & div events, even some where Pontiacs were entered. And, as of this minute, I don't know how to look up results of any other smaller and/or special events. So, again I ask that any of you guys who know of events I haven't reported on, in which any Pontiac V8 powered car may have done well, please post that info. Thanks ! |
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I realize that LOTS, probably MOST, here don't give a flip about Pontiac powered race cars, or anything to do with Pontiacs or their history. Their feelings about the subject, may be similar to mine, if somebody started a thread about the history of Chevy powered racing. There have been so many hundreds of thousands, most likely millions of Chevy powered drag cars, that I am really not interested in reading any more about 'em than I already know. Just because I don't care to read more about Chevy power, doesn't mean I have anything against the people who race Chevy powered cars. Same goes for Ford & Mopar racers. There have been lots of famous Mopar racers. I remember one particular race we attended, where the announcer seemed to be extremely excited to have Ronnie Sox there, driving a factory Mopar, IIRC. Over & over that day we kept hearing "Ronnie Sox" this, & "Ronnie Sox" that. Don't know how many times he said that name over the loud speaker. But. it was enuff that, thru the years, every time that name has ever come up, we both say"Ronnie Sox, Ronnie Sox, Ronnie Sox". From what I remember, Ronnie Sox was a great & famous Mopar Driver. "...The first thing that caught my eyes was a staple of every media guide, a list of the sport's winningest drivers. Here was the score heading into 1972: Ronnie Sox: 15 Don Garlits: 7 Gordon Collett : 7 Dave Boertman: 6 Gene Snow: 6 Don Prudhomme: 5 George Montgomery: 5 Ray Motes: 4 Don Nicholson: 4 Bill Jenkins: 4..." I also remember "Miss Mighty Mopar", Judy Lilly. She won LOTS of races, in factory Mopars. But, since I'm a Pontiac guy, one of the best memories I have of Judy, is the fact that Jack Mullins beat her, with his Pontiac wagon, in the finals of the US Nats, in 1975 ! I suppose it's all just a matter of brand preference, for some. Then others just like drag racing & don't really care what brand the body or engine is. Different strokes. :) |
Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
2019 contd.
@ LOS 3-3,Todd Frantz was #7 @ -.881. Don K. was #13 @ -.838. Greg Meyer was #33 @ -.768. Mike Morgan was #49 @ -.685. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 3-4, Todd Frantz was #3 @ -.944. Greg was #21 @ -.812. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 7-4, Brad was #20 @ -.807. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 7-5, Scott was #21 @ -.742. Son Brad drove his '72 Formy Stocker, in SS, & just barely ran under the SS/IA index, for the #49 position. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop At the Mile-high Nats, Carroll was #9 @ -.518. Billy Ingels was #10, also @ -.518. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop At the Sonoma Nats, Brad was #23 @ -.780. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 5-2, Robert was #16 @ -.768. Carroll was #34 @ -.647. Billy Ingels was #48 @ -.559. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop At the Northwest Nats, Brad was #8 @ -.748. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 1-4, John Agneta was #30 @ -.763. Bill K. Was #33 @ -.744. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop Bill got a 3rd place finish. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 1-5, Bill was #18 @ -.800. John was #17 @ -.795. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 3-5, Don K. was #4 @ - 1.007. Todd was #17 @ -.876. Casey McCarty was #24 @ -.849. Jack Good was #33 @ -.808. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 1-6, Bill was #16 @ -.744. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop At the Mopar Nats, Bill K. was #14 @ -.831. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 5-5, Robert was #8 @ -.938. Greg was #18 @ -.868. Carroll was #25 @ -.776. Bill Rink was #27 @ -.753. Scott was #32 @ -.713. Billy Ingels was #39 @ -.668. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 5-6, most of the same guys were there. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop At the Jegs Sports Nats, Bill Rink was #6 @ -.971. Todd was #15 @ -.894. Casey McCarty was #27 @ -.851. Jack Good was #57 @ -.646. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 1-7, Bill K. was #20 @ -.871. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 3-6, Bill Rink was #1 @ - 1.147. Todd was #9 @ -.953. Stacy McCarty was #34 @ -.696. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 7-6, Leo was #11 @ -.695. Larry was #33. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 2-6, Wilbert Thornton finished in the top half of the field, with a #31 @ -.795. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop At the Fall Vegas nat, Bill Rink was #4 @ - 1.142. Robert was #15 @ - 1.015. Brad was #29 @ -.923. Leo was #33 @ -.899. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop @ LOS 7-7, Bill Rink was #1 @ - 1.145. Robert was #6 @ -.978. Todd was #11 @ -.927. Scott was #29 @ -.861. Leo was #38 @ -.829. Larry was #85. Keri was #93. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop At the Pomona Finals, Robert was #7 @ -.933. Leo was #18 @ -.840. Art was #52. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop Well, that completes my scan of the DRC SS files, since 1998. Not even close to the total number of big races Pontiacs entered during those years. But, it does cover some of the quicker Pontiac SS cars, during the period. And, some of 'em are still racing, as we'll soon see ! :) |
Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
Yes, I realize that MOST here are not interested, & will never look at hardly any of these results.
BUT, for those few who are, & for those who someday may be, the links are here. So, I suppose that as long as this site remains & keeps this thread, and as long as the links to the DRC files still work, anyone interested will be able to get a small glimpse into Pontiac V8 powered NHRA Super Stock drag racing, since 1998. :) |
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