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I'm in need of some motivation to get mine in the car.:)

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50 beautiful women in bikinis will stand in line to ride with you the day you get it running.

Motivation enough? :)

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Done I'm on it. Hope my wife dose'nt find out.:D

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I'm Looking For A Red Hemi Dart, Will Travel To Canada.

http://www.mrwallpaper.com/wallpaper...t-Girl_tn2.jpg

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Perfect! lol

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A suitcase full of one-hundred dollar bills is more preferable. Those "50 beautiful women in bikinis" in time will drain you (at least) of that much. LOL

M68

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Great job. What kind of valve cover finish? To me it appears to be Jet Hot-coated or some similar process and not chrome plated. Don't tell me it's aluminum paint. :) Whatever it is, it produces a good-looking effect.

M68

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Paul,
Is that your wife???? If not, can I keep her????
On second thought I don't think my wife would approve of my new "hobby".
Very nice,-------- thankyou, thankyou, tnankyou


Charlie, Bob
Sorry, don't have the on hand technology for audio, visual. I understand that there will be a chassis dyno @ theFarmington showthis weekend. I'm throwing the thought around of strapping it down for a pull or two. Maybe, someone will have a video camera available & could post???? Betting booth is now open. Post your best guess. Chassis HP not flywheel HP

M68
I found a local powder coating place that sprays on alluminum, then seals it with a clear. I also like the finish. It's different

liteweight

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Daryl,

You could tell your wife, she's a relative..............;)

That's what I told my wife..............:D

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Rhinodaert, did this cuda belong to wily cossey then travel east with christie and fisher when they went to work for sox and martin. I live in ohio and watched billy the kid stepp alot and both cudas were beautiful.


mike koester

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Well, got the car completed in time for the Mopar show in Farmington last weekend, but, not without some major last minute thrashing = major oil leak from external oil line on pan. I'm still recovering from sleep depervation. Just getting too old for this I quess.
I was able to take it out a couple times durring the weekend for some serious part throttle blasts. Result------- Holy **** Man !!!!!!!!! I think I got Don Grotheer's attention who happened to be in the right seat on one of those "test sessions". After we got back he suggested I install a head restraint on the passenger side.This car is a lil' more than just shiney paint. It runs HARD

liteweight

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...ps583e0540.jpg

the first ride with my new engine combination & original old school early 70's Keystones.

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7c4a2379.jpg

The build tour will continue

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Since Dave's (marfen) car has now made it's public debut I'm going to attach a couple pictures of it. Pictures just don't do this car justice. You gotta see it in person, specially in the sunlight. The lettering is done with real goldleaf

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Liking those Keystones!!!!!!!!

One day I hope I am sharing the same real estate as you and the Dart.

Would love to see it first hand.

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7c4a2379.jpg

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Charlie
Not much of a chance of me getting down to your end of the country, but, I'm planning on attending the All Hemi Reunion in Hamilton, Ohio Aug.23-24 with the car. Kinda think it's about halfway, real estate wise, between you & me. This car has been known to have made a few beer runs over the years, so, I don't need much convincing to drive it. I'm puttin this on the table for YOU Charlie. You show up there, you got a ride. How's that for dangling the perverbial carrot in front of your nose??.

liteweight

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Lookin' for my bottle of nitro pills !!!!!!!!

Twins are spending the summer lining up for first year of college.
Just MIGHT be able to make this work.

Google says 799 miles!

That carrot..........killing me. :D

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No need for the nitro pills. Think it'll give you a pretty good jump start!!!! lol

The build tour continues:
Valve train is DLI roller,camshaft is a Crower roller @ .705" delivered. Hemi valve trains have a HUGE amount of deflection due to their design characteristics, so I reverse "engineered" the camsahft profile by getting the amount of lift loss @ the valve, then adding that amount to the custom order lobe profile.
I measured amount of loss with different rocker arms from stock, Indy's, & Stage V's. The DLI's were the happy medium for the value. Jesel, or Ray Barton's pedistal system are probably the best system out there, but just not required for my application, price wise
It has Manton pushrods & adjusters

liteweight

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I don't believe the last operating room I was in was that clean!

The surgeon is at work. :D

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The valve covers I'm using on this motor are the only set I've ever seen. They are original Chrysler Nascar stampings, but what sets them apart from other Nascar covers is the valve train humps, both intake & exhaust sides.
Whenever you use large diameter springs with tall installed spring heights there is interference issues with the covers. The common solution is to bump out the covers with a ball peen hammer to get the clearance you need. These particular covers have those clearance humps, but they're not massaged with a ball peen. They are actually stamped this way. They also have adjuster reliefs on the internal baffling for large lift cams.
They came from Bob Lambecks collection of parts probably from when he was teamed with Landy. They were in pretty tough shape when I got them & needed alot of hours of repair to get them to what they are today. I also removed the tall breather stands that were located in the center of them & relocated shorter tubes in the fronts for drag racing use. I wanted to chrome the covers, but the metal work would have shown, so, instead I had them powder coated in aluminum, then clear coated. I think I prefer this look rather than chrome now
The breathers are machined billet that a buddy lathed out for me, & are hooked to a pan evac. system on the header collectors


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Daryl, thanks for the photos and the education!

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My pleasure Jim. I'm doing this "tour" for that exact reason. After the build tour, I think I'll take a bunch of pictures of my car that will show the differences from a production Dart compared to a Hurst built LO Dart.

liteweight

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Daryl,

That looks like my Daughter's College Education Fund............

Did you rob a Canadian Bank...........:).....or hit the Lottery....

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Nope, & nope. Just a Canadian redneck blue collar mechanic------ Alot dedicated & maybe some possesed.

liteweight

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Here's a photo of the 2 Canadian based LO Darts that were taken in Farmington a few weeks back. Thanx to Don Moats for forwarding the picture.

Liteweight

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Daryl: Are the steering wheels on the left or the right side in those Canadian cars??? ha ha ha!!!

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Craig
It has been awhile since you've been north of the 49th parallel isn't it?? he,he,he

Next chapter for my build is the carbs.

these cars originally were supplied with two 770 CFM vacuum secondary carbs, which for the most part, are good units out of the box, but, there is room for improvement. I'm not an out of the box kind of person, so I got together with a good friend of mine who has a flow bench & over 40 years of experience in modifing Holleys.
Now, I'm sure some people might get bent out of shape with me modifing original 68 Super Stock Hemi carbs,so, let me say these are reproductions. The 1968 originals are freshly restored, & safely packed away in boxes under my bench. I did screw the original 1968 tags onto these tho.

Visually a person really needs to know their Holleys to see the changes that were made to these carbs. That was the whole intent.

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...ps21b6cc72.jpg

They have been flow balanced & each flow 897cfm now. The original straight boosters have been replaced with "dog leg" style of boosters. This places the booster into the main stream of the fast air in the middle of the venturies rather than above, which means they recieve a much better signal there. The shooters have been replaced with tube style for the same reason. All the pressed in air bleeds have been replaced with screw in to enable better tuning capabilities.

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On the original style of vacuum secondary carbs, including these, the secondary jetting is a replacable plate, rather than changing the screw in style of jets. A Real PITA when tuning. So, I installed metering blocks with screw in jets. All the metering blocks have been drilled & tapped with replaceable bleeds in them also. You will also notice idle mixture screws have been installed on the secondaries. Now there's 8 idle mixture screws. these work great for fine tuning. An 1/8 of a turn makes a huge difference on each one. This things throttle response is astounding. It's instant, even from idle under load. I'm sure it rivals that of a modern fuel injected engine.
These carbs would be illegal in class style of Super Stock racing, but there's other things on this car that are the same way.
Is it excesive? Yes it is, but makes for a helluva street driven hot rod

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Daryl: As a chevy guy, are the original 68 carbs 4160 style with the metering block? With all the years of tweeking on these carbs, the racers and Mopar John Baumann found a way to make them work pretty darn good!!!

Your car and set up really looks in your photos and better in person. I hope to set the motor in my new project in the next week or two and I will send you some photos. There is still a windage issue that is being worked out and the builder figures he has a handle on the issue. That big 4 3/4" stroke causes problems that you do not find in smaller strokes, windage and drain back are big concerns to deal with.

I thought that I should give you a little bit of a hard time on the photo of the two Canadian darts.

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Daryl,
There have been so many pictures, I do NOT remember if this one has been posted yet. You know the car?

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...Number=6436453

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I do remember this picture being posted somewhere, but I don't remember the logistics of this car.

liteweight

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Thanx for the good words Craig.
They are the 4160 style but, no, they don't have metering blocks with thread in replacable jets in the secondary sides originally

So how many cubes are you building this monster to?? Are you installing a vacuum pump on the motor to help control the windage?

liteweight

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Daryl: It is an Donovan 10.2" deck Donovan aluminum 620" EFI pump gas motor. We did not put a vacuum pump on it originally, the builder is changing the screen baffle in the pan, adding drainage and pressure equalizing lines from the ends of the heads to the pan and a pan scraper. The vacuum pump will come if all the other things do not fix the issue. He has it much better than when it was first on the dyno. If I had to do it again, I would have dry sumped it

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Does anyone have pictures of Joe Ralph Thompson's '71 Demon Pro Stock car? It ran in 71 and at least part of 72. If my info is correct, Gene Graham drove it.

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I got this photo from somewhere, not sure who "owns" it. It may have been on another thread here somewhere?

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Thanks a million, Jim.

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Thanks Charlie A.

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No problem. :)

If you were to scroll through a few pages of this topic, you will find I'm a pretty strong fan of the old JRT days.

Knew of this car but it came about while I was overseas. Never saw it until posted here.

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Darts are where you find 'em.

Who's is in the background here? Fenton wheels may help ID it for someone.

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The Dart is the Bill Tanner Lenox Dodge car. Behind it is the SS/DA challenger also owned by Bill. And of course, Woodro Josey in front.

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Ok...almost a half million hits later we're still looking for the "Lost Episodes" of Liteweight's LO23.

WAKE UP !!!!!

Time to get the dectectives back on the hunt.

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There has to be some Charlie Castaldo connection. First you have the guy Lou bought the car from telling him that, and then in this thread Jimi Vignona relating to us seeing the Charlie Castaldo name on the doors (beneath the paint) when the car was in his dad's garage. That can not be dismissed. There has got to be some connection...maybe just the doors are from one of Castaldo's Darts? Maybe Charlie had a third Dart? I dunno.

As far as "two scoop Lido" is concerned, from the best of my knowledge in order to be a participant at a Bracket Finals race you had to finish in the Top 10 at your track. If that is true, then the "two scoop Lido" Dart had to be a regular competitor at some track in order to gain enough points to finish in the Top 10 to represent his track at the Bracket Finals and not just show up for that one (big) race (and receive a participant decal) because he felt like racing there that day.

M68