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Okay, where is the hand out???
How is making the rule for red lights the SAME for EVERYBODY, a hand out?
A hand out would be giving an advantage to slower car... OR a faster car (as it is, now.)

Faster cars have been enjoying a "hand out" since 1963 (the FREE RIDE if their competitor "bulbs.")

If that isn't a "hand out," I don't know what is....
Where is your objection to THAT "hand out"?????

Jeasus....

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Tough one, huh, Ed????

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Bill, your a tad slow if you don't get that most don't agree with you, or even care. Do you have any idea how many are laughing at your little crusade? Just keep asking your repetitive little questions. You don't like the answers you get, so you just keep asking them. Over , and over, and over, and over........
I don't owe you a response every time you put up a 47 paragraph post. Get over yourself. Once more, simply posting on Internet message boards won't change anything.

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Thank you Bill. Jim

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Ah, the master plan is working!............. and then there were NONE!

BTW Gary... Happy Birthday Dude!!!! Jim:D

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Makes no difference. Not going to change. Don't like it? Build a faster car or quit. Whining on a message board won't do a thing.
This is lame.

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Does not matter. It's not going to change. Get over it or go do something else. Debating it won't change a thing. Go debate with the people that make the rules: NHRA. The people here have nothing to say about it. Makes no difference what anybody here thinks. Just does not matter what is said here. Get it?

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Bill, approaching NHRA as I mentioned and whining on an Internet message board are two different things. Going on & on about it here does nothing. More people wanted cars weighed with the drivers than want this changed. Remember the poll done here? Most racers do not want or care about this. Get over it. Not going to happen. I would like to take long showers with Pamela Anderson too. That ain't gonna happen either.

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Doesn't matter what you or I think Bill, it ain't gonna change because a small group complains about it here. Talk to N & I HRA. No leverage here. Surely your bright enough to get that. Ten (or fewer) guys on an Internet message board is not going to change that.

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Doesn't matter, ain't gonna happen, but:
It (among other things here) has been discussed, and laughed about, in the staging lanes while killing time waiting for the endless line of throttle stop engines-on-a-stick cars run ahead of us. The slow cars that might be in favor are in the minority. You have not seen any polls here, or anywhere else, with my name on it.

Isn't there a bracket racing section here?

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In the end, Bill's ( or anybody else's) long-azzed rants do not matter. It won't change.

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What a radical idea! Petition NHRA instead of ranting endlessly on an internet message board! WOW!!

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As I have stated many times before: I don't care either way. Read that again. I said petition NHRA instead of ranting here. Here = nothing. NHRA = maybe. That is how hp factors get reduced, not by endless message board rants.

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If they change it, just make it right by putting both the red light cars out.
It won't get changed here.

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It ain't gonna change by posting endless crap here. Talk to NHRA.






Hey, Ed, why don't you quit spamming this thread? We get the picture. How many times are you going to post the same thing over and over again?

Please put this thread in your ignore list or when you see a new post to this thread don't click on it, OK?


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Re: worst red light debate, again!
 

I'll go you one better Ed. How about we just go out there and all race heads up and the first one to the finish line wins, no red lights and no dial ins? I think that would be great, don't you? I'd win at least half the time and you ......well.....not so much huh? You probably would get tired of getting spanked by every other car that showed up except for maybe the occasional EF/S combo. You might not agree with this but so what, I want it like this! Why? Well just because. Who cares if you think it's not fair! After all we have other things we could be "crying" to NHRA about don't we? I think we can change the purses from paying only $1000 to win to $5000 if we just concentrate on that and screw the small stuff we can get that done real soon!

Now, obviously the above paragraph is not how I really feel but it makes as much sense as your answer to Toby's post and the other reasons you have posted on this subject. Thanks for playing. Try again soon. Jim


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The system as it is now works just fine for me.And I'm among the maybe 5% of the guys who leave first almost every elimination run.I've done alright with the spectre of the red light rule hanging over my head now for the last 11 years running stock.Maybe if some of you guys concentrated more on your starting line abilities,instead of finding ways to
"improve" your chances of winning,you would go more rounds and this bull$hit problem
wouldn't be so much of a problem.Maybe if the non racing members here found another
outlet for their crusades they would get up in the morning without thinking someone pi$$ed in their cornflakes.Right Mr. Bill and John the Shadow?

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Let me get this straight: You have been racing for ELEVEN YEARS and have won HOW MANY National events???

I haven't run my car at ANY NHRA events, and have won just as many as you have.

And, you think that system works "JUST FINE" for you????

What's wrong with this picture???

For all the national event wins you have under your belt, you might as well have left your car at home in the garage. All you have done is to provide cannon fodder for these guys taking advantage of the second to leave "free ride," red light rule. If not, they at least had the opportunity.

That would make ME want to piss in somebody's Wheaties, 'til I got the worse red light rule instated.

"Masochism".... "pleasure in being subjected to pain or humiliation."

Read it and weep....

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I think what Bill is saying is that the system might be "working" now but it could work just a little bit better for "all", not just the last car to leave. It comes as no surprise to me that the majority of the people opposed to Bill's thoughts are the ones with the faster cars who would have a perceived advantage taken away from them. The notion that you have no say if you are a "non-racing member" is just plain dumb. If that were the case Ed, you would actually be in that category as according to the stats you haven't made a single race this year. Pretty dumb reason isn't it? Just as dumb as most of the reasons disagreeing with Bill's posts. I think Jeff came the closest to giving a viable reason of just about anyone here when he said he built a car to take advantage of an unfair situation that this rule change would negate but that still doesn't hold water with me.

The "worse red light" rule would hurt no one. It would even the playing field for 99.9 % of the non heads up races today! The technology exists to do this today, it did not in the past. It should be changed. It would make the rules of NHRA and IHRA if nothing else, consistent. Aren't we all looking for consistency? Jim

Just my opinion. I am entitled to it since I have been class racing for 45 years now. Right Ed? Please send me your phone number so I can call you and get tips on how to improve my starting line abilities!

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