Originally Posted by r sledge (Post 178658)

Just wanted to say that I've known Greg Hill for quite a few years and they don't come any better, straighter or helpful than he. Don't know you and your boy, am sure you are just "good old boys" having fun with a new toy, but I don't think you understand or can appreciate what Greg and racers like him have gone through the last 20 years or so and it just makes it a little hard to try an swallow all the BOGUS hp/combo's that people can go and buy and that NHRA lets it happen.

You earn respect you don't buy it.

Later RJ

Originally Posted by NewHemi (Post 178787)

I have no issue with Greg Hill, other than his telling us we are full of crap.

As for having been through the wars, I completely respect that, and with all of the other guys I respect standing tall for him, I can understand what is being said.

But in my opinion, bad manners and name calling just don't make a point as clearly as directing comments to the issues...

As to the points being discussed; Are the current HP factors fair... we have admitted as other have, that they probably are not.. But what are we supposed to do???? Everyone looks for a favorably factored car to run. We just happened to have one already.. And we are working to move to an even more favorable rating with the 5.7. And we have no misconception that you just have to find a good combo and ride it forever into the sunset. We know it takes work to keep competitive, and I respect those who have done the same over time.

Maybe it is because I am new here, but can you tell me how calling us names, and telling us that we don't know what we are talking about helps anyone with the NHRA and the current factoring system??

If we don't know what we are talking about, then tell us where we have erred.

I may be slow and old, but I am still trainable...

So be specific and tell us where and why we are wrong, and maybe it will serve a better purpose than calling names.

We know that we stand on the shoulders of giants in this sport. We are not, as some seem to believe, totally new to drag racing. And we are far from new to engine building... But like most honest men, we are willing to admit that we don't know everything, and we may never know it all. But we do know a bit. We don't want to be at odds with anyone here or anywhere else, but when attacked without justification, we will tend to defend. ....Unless we are totally wrong, and then we will man up and admit it.

Was I wrong to call out Greg Hill for name calling? Just because he is an experienced racer and has been on the wrong end of the stick with the NHRA? I do feel for the guys who are looking down the wrong end of the NHRA gun... But again I ask what am I supposed to do? And how much good does name calling do?

So let's start over. I won't, and so far I haven't, called Greg names...And if chooses to call us names, we simply will not respond.

I am not asking for respect. I have spent my whole life earning respect in the my chosen vocation, and my chosen hobbies... If you respect us, and some here do, then so be it. But if you do not respect us, then so be it too.

We aren't here to battle. We are here to learn, and to share what we already know. If you think we are full of crap, then just ignore what we say. That seems easy enough..

David
The New Hemi Guy