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GRIGGS 03-31-2010 03:54 PM

Re: oil retention devices
 
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Originally Posted by Bryan Worner (Post 178848)
How much to build and install it???? I'm sure it's more than I want to spend!

Are we going to have to diaper the transmission and rear end too??? I've seen just as many broken transmissions and rear ends that have put fluid on the track as I have blown motors!!

Bryan, the custom built one that I got from DRE wa about 400 dollars. Even with the center link going through the diaper and Stef's pan, my little mishap last year concentrated the cleanup in a much smaller area. I believe the cleanup only took 10 minutes and I was able to get my car stopped without sliding around in 5W30. Some track are even paying you extra if you win a local event and have a diaper on the car.

CBS 03-31-2010 08:10 PM

Re: oil retention devices
 
My thought is let the diaper guy look at Brian's car....his looks like one of the worst cases I've seen....If the diaper guy says he can't do it...I guess it can't be done....Brian's car will at least speak for the many 69 camaro's...that should be enough to stop it....you would think...

I think both will be at the Norwalk Divisional....

Actually I think Brian should put a stock pan on his car so the diaper fits and we stop breathing his exhaust.....lol

Rock

Tom Meyer 03-31-2010 08:24 PM

Re: oil retention devices
 
I have been to a lot of races over the last 20 + years brackets, combos, divs and nationals and have broken a few motors a long the way which have never oiled the track knock on wood. We now can run aftermarket rods better pistons and the latest bearings. Most of us are not running 10 qts of oil or dry sumps. Nun of use wants to oil the track most of the time its just bad luck. Nascar have tons and tons of money in there motors and they blow up just like anybody else, they don,t have dipers, there on TV and have a fleet of sweeper trucks and jet dryers. Why are we such a problem the pros have caused more down time at one race than a years worth of sportman runs. We could have a honest poll on this fourum to just how many times one of us has oiled the track that has caused a cleanup of any kind. Tom

Wade Mahaffey 03-31-2010 08:39 PM

Re: oil retention devices
 
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Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 178943)
With all due respect Wade..... you drive a tube chassis, no clearance issue what? Roadster? Corvette? Super Comp/ Super Gas what? Jim

Jim and Ed, I have been under enough cars and built many also. I do undestand the clearance issues and cost involved. I am not feeling the pain of the average guy because I build my own headers, car, suspension, engine placement, everything. So for me it's not a big deal. I know the average racer does none of that, so he/she has to spend more money in fabrication/parts. I am done with the 90 cars....I still like them and respect the drivers and builders. To me it's all racing...a set of rules....and see if you can beat the next guy. I haven't raced in ten years on that level. The Corvette is for S/S and I surely have a great deal to learn. So when I get this little 283 red car done, be sure to set yourself up on my side of the sheet so you can get a free one! My point with the device is that I will use one and not that NHRA should mandate the use for everyone. I don't have any data on incidents or incident potential. I do have a family that depends on me, and that means minimize your exposure to danger and take all precautions possible. That's why I'm ok with my little "L" car. I don't even need a cage, but it's caged up real nice...even a window net. It's my opinion that an oil retension device is a good idea, hopefully I won't need it, or the seat belt, or the fire suit, or the cage, or the trans shield, drive shaft loop, etc. For my fellow racers....it will be nice for them to know that I am doing everything I can to minimize the chance of me getting into them on the run! The guys behind me will know that I'm doing my part to keep the track clean and safe for them.
Ed, I might be wrong but I thought it was...hot oil...cold water was the ticket for fast. That's what the guys that use chillers say....If you see one in D-1, look at the sticker or ask them who made it...you might get a surprise !!

Ryan Horensky 04-01-2010 06:34 AM

Re: oil retention devices
 
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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 178869)
Why worry about it....your dad spends his money and does all of the work on the stocker anyway....lol.

Terry,

I probobly haven't met you since I was about 12 years old so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are making a joke about me on here. There is no doubt my dad throws alot of time and money at both cars. Stock eliminator is his passion and he works very hard to make sure both cars are competitive and fast. I also appreciate every opportunity in racing that has been given to me since I was old enough to start driving. I consider myself very lucky and very fortunate. But honestly you don't know me, what parts I spend money on, what work I do to the cars, etc. So please keep your opinions to yourself if you're being serious. If you're joking....sorry I took it the wrong way.

Billy Nees 04-01-2010 06:57 AM

Re: oil retention devices
 
So 7 pages into this I guess I'll ask; Why do I need an "oil retention device" on my 13 second Stocker when a Bracket Dragster doesn't need one till 7.49?

Stephen & Horace Johnson 04-01-2010 08:20 AM

Re: oil retention devices
 
I'd like to see one of these on an FE powered car. I dont see it happening!! the headers are so close to the oil pan, and it will have to fit around the crossmember??


Stephen Johnson #2162
Horace Johnson #2167
SS/D 427 Ford Fairlane NHRA-IHRA

troublemaker427 04-01-2010 11:14 AM

Re: oil retention devices
 
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Originally Posted by Stephen & Horace Johnson (Post 179109)
I'd like to see one of these on an FE powered car. I dont see it happening!! the headers are so close to the oil pan, and it will have to fit around the crossmember??


Stephen Johnson #2162
Horace Johnson #2167
SS/D 427 Ford Fairlane NHRA-IHRA

Stephen I was thinking the same thing. I've looked at my car and I just don't see how it would work. I'd be curious if anyone tried it on a car like ours.

Bobby Zlatkin 04-01-2010 11:57 AM

Re: oil retention devices
 
All the talk on the news now with the health care reform legislation about the federal gov. forcing us to purchase something that we may not want.

Seems like the NHRA is now 'our' gov. forcing us to purchase something we don't want and don't really need.

I can't believe how many of you candy a$$es would even consider this for your car. It shouldn't be required, it should be optional.

Isn't it expensive enough to put a car together now?

X-TECH MAN 04-01-2010 12:36 PM

Re: oil retention devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan Horensky (Post 179072)
Terry,

I probobly haven't met you since I was about 12 years old so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are making a joke about me on here. There is no doubt my dad throws alot of time and money at both cars. Stock eliminator is his passion and he works very hard to make sure both cars are competitive and fast. I also appreciate every opportunity in racing that has been given to me since I was old enough to start driving. I consider myself very lucky and very fortunate. But honestly you don't know me, what parts I spend money on, what work I do to the cars, etc. So please keep your opinions to yourself if you're being serious. If you're joking....sorry I took it the wrong way.

Well I know about you and I do know your dad and have my connections. I did meet you several years ago at Maple Grove when you were drivng the "Box Top" coupe. To bad your so sensitive...lol. I do know that you are a very good driver. You are just one of the new breed of racers. Several on here can drive like a robot but can not even lash valves or set the timing. Your dad builds beautiful cars and I wished I had his talent. Hang in there...this racing crap isnt life or death.


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