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BBF67 05-11-2011 09:01 AM
Re: Want to loose 3200 ugly pounds?
 
Be ready for Stock to be revamped in 2012. Look for the upper classes in Stock to be moved to S/S. That's my prediction.

Bob Pagano 05-11-2011 09:10 AM
Re: Want to loose 3200 ugly pounds?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BBF67 (Post 257908)
Be ready for Stock to be revamped in 2012. Look for the upper classes in Stock to be moved to S/S. That's my prediction.
If they do that they will really have a low car counts, some people with high class stockers have their cars for sale now or have already sold them.

Richard Grant 05-11-2011 10:23 AM
Re: Want to loose 3200 ugly pounds?
 
Yes, it makes a big difference. When they are allowed traction control, trans brakes(not yet but I'm just waiting), automatic shift, bigger tires(it's coming) and anything the factories and some very smart racers can imagine. The faster cars already have the advantage, that's why Biondo, the Emmons, Fletcher(until he couldn't outrun the factory cars), etc. have gone to high class cars. Any futher rule changes just makes Stock more of a Super Stock class. Sooner than you think NHRA will say why not just combine the classes, look there's really no difference between the two. Everyday the water is getting hotter.

borninamopar 05-11-2011 09:31 PM
Re: Want to loose 3200 ugly pounds?
 
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Originally Posted by Richard Grant (Post 257693)
Don't give Ford and Mopar any ideas. I am not sure they aren't already equiped with something similiar. But then it's "stock". I guess all the rest of the stock racers can just go bracket race and leave "stock" to the high dollar factory cars.
Uh, it is bracket racing, unless it's a heads up race.

Richard Grant 05-12-2011 12:18 AM
Re: Want to loose 3200 ugly pounds?
 
Exactly, that's the reason it's not bracket racing.

SS Engine Guy 05-12-2011 03:52 AM
Re: Want to loose 3200 ugly pounds?
 
The absolute only interest that I have ever had in S/SS was to either get beaten (fair and square) in a heads up race, or to win (fair and square) in a heads up race. In the first senario I know that I have to do more work in order to win the next time. In the latter I know that the work and time I invested was not wasted.
Go back to class winners only run in eliminations and the winner and runner up goes thru teardown and everyone that says "its still bracket racing" will see exactly the difference. Bulls*&t hp factors excluded of course.

Once upon a time, a class winner decal/trophy and a record on the wall actually meant something. The way we have allowed our sport to be watered down its now not worth the gaskets.

goinbroke2 05-12-2011 07:05 AM
Re: Want to loose 3200 ugly pounds?
 
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Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes (Post 257826)
the only issue I see is the vast difference from a fast A/FX car to a slow V/S car. I thin it might be time for all stockers to have the same safety specs
Sure, and time for all S/SS to have pro stock spec too!



And pro stock have top fool spec......

(in case you didn't get the sarcasm)

Todd 05-12-2011 07:16 AM
Re: Want to loose 3200 ugly pounds?
 
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Originally Posted by boster58 (Post 257910)
If the new cars go into there own classes what does it matter to anyone else what they weight ? The point of the new classes is to keep the old cars in the traditional classes where they can race and be competitive .

The point of the new cars is that they were designed and built to be race cars ,and go fast from the factory and they should be in there own classes . We cant change the past but be can influence the future . We now have two major car companies building factory race car . They seem to want to be involved in our sport .

Let's keep them involved , let them build the cars to go fast , keep the weight off them and let the car owners go out and have fun with there new race cars

I sold my beloved LS1 Firebirds because I want to go fast and have a new race car with a blower . I have 3 corvette's in my garage and Im a GM guy , but Im impressed with the drag pack & cobra jet cars . I bought a 2008 cobra # 49 a plan on running it as hard as I can , not because I want to kill the index but because thats what it was built for .

My cobalt is for sale now and when its gone a 2012 cobra jet will replace it for super stock . These cars are very serious race cars and I for one hope to see more factory cars coming soon especially from GM but for now Im with Ford. For the record the new cars from the factory cost less then building a new 69 camaro ZL1 or 67 shelby .

Bo Kenney
Great post Bo, you are correct about the cost factor too.

Chad Rhodes 05-12-2011 08:47 AM
Re: Want to loose 3200 ugly pounds?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by goinbroke2 (Post 258067)
Sure, and time for all S/SS to have pro stock spec too!



And pro stock have top fool spec......

(in case you didn't get the sarcasm)
maybe not the same but i think requiring a 6 point bar and harness in all stockers would be a great idea. Stop and think about the physics of a 3800lb cobra jet ending up in your door at over 140mph. Still don't think you need the same safety equipment?

Billy Nees 05-12-2011 09:08 AM
Re: Want to loose 3200 ugly pounds?
 
Umm Chad, go to your local bracket track (NHRA) and check out the ET breaks for Super and Pro. 14 second street cars race 9 second 140 mph cars every weekend all over the country and it doesn't seem to bother NHRA one bit. Don't go getting NHRA all cranked up and costing me money!


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