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boster 04-16-2012 02:24 PM

Re: Ford First "Stocker" Into The Eights
 
Guy's get use to it the new cars are here to stay . Some of you guys think just because you buy a new factory car that its fast right out of the gate and that's just not true.

I can tell you we are working on our stuff 3 nights a week every week . I just spent 6 weeks on the chassis dyno with my super stocker to get it to run right , went racing and the air was real good and the AHFS that you guys say is so slow it me for 100lbs for my efforts first time out

What most of you guys that sit on here and cry or not race a lot don't know is that the air at Charlotte was 2 tenths faster then the Gators . It was the best air I have seen in 5 years and that's why the cars were fast .

Cry about the new cars all you want but don't say we don't work on are cars or that they are that super fast from the factory because they are not .

Greg , what or who's new car is 2 seconds under the index ?

Alan , we to are also building new engines as well and looking for the best C4 trans we can find

OMG , American band stand is off the air , Soul train is gone , Johnny Carson is off the air and the new factory cars are the talk of the town .

cutta 04-16-2012 03:02 PM

Re: Ford First "Stocker" Into The Eights
 
So are racers parking there cars simply on the principal that the factors are so outrageous, I refuse to race my car with an organization that won't change them.
or
I have no chance at qualifying number one so I'm staying home
or
is it just economy


I'm very young and have yet to spend any big time money on a race car but I don't see why one would park their car because of the new cars, especially if they're not in my class. They now race in their own classes for the most part and essentially only beat up on each other now, minus a few exceptions. When you put so much money into something you love, I can't imagine parking my car because of another car regardless of how fast they are.

PS: We all know that factors on the new cars are not as close as they should be(some worse than others, some not).

Jeff Teuton 04-16-2012 03:36 PM

Re: Ford First "Stocker" Into The Eights
 
Ok Randall, I won't beat my chest. I might hurt something in there and I am running out of things to change, sorta like a super stock car. Gotta love that Nomad!! How much did the 3 speed help the wagon? ADRL is going to allow the 3 speeds in the cars, and I was thinking about .1 @ 660? What you think.

junior barns 04-16-2012 03:47 PM

Re: Ford First "Stocker" Into The Eights
 
Question???

Are all the engines that everyone is talking about offered as an option to order on these cars straight from the factory??

Andrew Hill 04-16-2012 04:02 PM

Re: Ford First "Stocker" Into The Eights
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by junior barns (Post 321809)
Question???

Are all the engines that everyone is talking about offered as an option to order on these cars straight from the factory??

Some of them were offered in the real cars by the factories, others not. The 352/428 Fords were not in the factory built CJs, same with the 281 3V motor like Charlie Downing's car. I think the 302 that is legal for 2010 was not in any factory produced CJs in 2010, but it is for 2012. I believe all of the Drag Pak motors came in the factory produced cars (except for maybe the 6.4L, not sure), even if it was only for 1 car like Mr. Jeff's 5.9.

Randall Klein 04-16-2012 04:06 PM

Re: Ford First "Stocker" Into The Eights
 
Dunno, Jeff; ever since we put it in we've had one problem after another: engine, chassis, drive shaft....kinda like you and me....needs rebuilt after 60 some years.....might know after Dallas....shooting for my first 10 second time slip.....EVERYTHING new and fresh, like you

junior barns 04-16-2012 04:56 PM

Re: Ford First "Stocker" Into The Eights
 
I truely could care less since I have'nt raced much the last 5yrs. This is where I would have a problem. If the big 3 wants to get involved, especially in stock then at the very least NHRA should only accept engine combo's that were produced in these cars. Then I think the ahfs can keep up.

just my 2cents

Charley Downing 04-16-2012 07:56 PM

Re: Ford First "Stocker" Into The Eights
 
Andrew those motors are offered from fords where do you think I got mine from? You can call any ford dealer and get all the parts you want. And just for the record Ford Motor Company did make cars like mine and the 352 and 428. just ask Mr Summers he went right up to Michigan and picked his up turn key. These cars are not regular cars they are FACTORY RACE CARS that fall under NHRA SS/STK rules. Therefore they get to race. End of story. I must remind some of you that it is not 1970 anymore and things (rules) do change.


And Congrats to Daddy war bucks

Andrew Hill 04-16-2012 08:33 PM

Re: Ford First "Stocker" Into The Eights
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 321851)
Andrew those motors are offered from fords where do you think I got mine from? You can call any ford dealer and get all the parts you want. And just for the record Ford Motor Company did make cars like mine and the 352 and 428. just ask Mr Summers he went right up to Michigan and picked his up turn key. These cars are not regular cars they are FACTORY RACE CARS that fall under NHRA SS/STK rules. Therefore they get to race. End of story. I must remind some of you that it is not 1970 anymore and things (rules) do change.


And Congrats to Daddy war bucks

Sorry Charley, I was just trying to answer the question as to which motors were options from the factory, I know you can buy the motors from Ford. I was under the impression that the motor like yours and the 352/428 motors were not factory options, but rather special cases, I never saw them listed on the Cobra Jet advertisements like the blown motors, or the 5.0L N/A motor for this year.

See you guys in Indy

GUMP 04-16-2012 10:19 PM

Re: Ford First "Stocker" Into The Eights
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Hill (Post 321812)
....(except for maybe the 6.4L, not sure)....

I know of two that were built.


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