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HandOverFist 06-24-2014 01:15 AM

Re: Video of Biondo's win over Fletcher's close call
 
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Originally Posted by Wade Mahaffey (Post 435842)
Watch this clip at the 5:20 mark....the car makes a move identical to the run against Peter. I thought I had seen that car upset on this clip the first time I viewed it. Don't know if this is a ballast thing, but a review and inspection of the brake system, shocks and springs, as well as bump steer critique is in order. You can see the car dip and to the right with the tail starting to come around, however the driver quickly gathered it up. I would certainly think the driver would remember that run....I know I would! Please except my comments as constructive, and in no way demeaning and or placing blame

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QbHDq0XFQ4

Wade Mahaffey

What I see is once again too damn hard on the binders. I could be wrong, but I'm betting both drivers already knew how hard braking upset the car...good enough reason not to do it.

Don Kennedy 06-24-2014 01:47 AM

Re: Video of Biondo's win over Fletcher's close call
 
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Originally Posted by HandOverFist (Post 435868)
What I see is once again too damn hard on the binders. I could be wrong, but I'm betting both drivers already knew how hard braking upset the car...good enough reason not to do it.

OK this whole blog needs to stop > Thomas did what he thought to do to win as we all would do so no second guessing- like we all would do so everyone needs to go to post why NHRA purses are so low

HandOverFist 06-24-2014 01:57 AM

Re: Video of Biondo's win over Fletcher's close call
 
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Originally Posted by Don Kennedy (Post 435869)
OK this whole blog needs to stop > Thomas did what he thought to do to win as we all would do so no second guessing- like we all would do so everyone needs to go to post why NHRA purses are so low

Don't know what a "blog" is...all I can say is I have not nor will I ever do that to win a race. Too much at stake and I don't mean the purse. If someone destroys my car because of stupidity it isnt going to be pretty once the wheels stop rolling and I am able to exit the vehicle.

Dan Fletcher 06-24-2014 08:01 AM

Re: Video of Biondo's win over Fletcher's close call
 
I want to thank Antony Fetch, Timbos's opponent in the Englishtown run, for a phone call yesterday about their run. He told me to look up the video, which I had, and now Wade M. has highlighted it. Thomas might have hit the brakes too hard or long, but Timbo didn't, period. The car has an issue, obviously.

I guess that's one problem with not driving your own car all the time, things can start happening that you aren't aware of. I haven't fully debriefed my drivers yet, but the point will be made clear that feedback on all facets of the car's performance is required.

Some may want to pontificate on the hard braking issue, but it's part of bracket racing, like it or not. You brake as quickly and as strongly as you can safely do. Safely being the key word, and in our case it apparently wasn't, given the combination of car and driver at that moment. I'm off to go fix and inspect my car.

Wade Mahaffey 06-24-2014 08:52 AM

Re: Video of Biondo's win over Fletcher's close call
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fletcher (Post 435874)

I guess that's one problem with not driving your own car all the time, things can start happening that you aren't aware of. I haven't fully debriefed my drivers yet, but the point will be made clear that feedback on all facets of the car's performance is required.


This is the answer.....A very good point.....listen to the car, by that I mean not just the Time Slip....but anything that happens a little different from the norm i.e. a vibration, a noise, a different or strange move at any place on the track...and of course, the person in the car the most would probably notice something different, and investigate to address any concern

Wade Mahaffey

Signman 06-24-2014 09:27 AM

Re: Video of Biondo's win over Fletcher's close call
 
That move under hard braking is the result of the suspension setup.
When you increase spring rate on the right rear to plant both slicks equally and go straight it loads the opposite corner, the left front then helps load the right rear. When the driver gets on the brakes hard the spring rates on the front are not equal the right front appears to collapse and the car gets upset. Some of that can be tuned out with shock adjustment am sure a good chassis shop can get rid of most of it. my footbrake Chevelle does it, the Tomata Can did it and my IROC-Z has done it.

astikhossw 06-24-2014 09:40 AM

Re: Video of Biondo's win over Fletcher's close call
 
Maybe some of the hard braking racer should think about a anti locking braking system ,it may keep Nhra from making it mandatory.

Bernie Cunningham 06-24-2014 11:52 PM

Re: Video of Biondo's win over Fletcher's close call
 
Thomas did a good job, call it luck or skill, I'm good on both ends.

This poor bastard was not so lucky.

https://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motora...205430089.html

philbilly 06-25-2014 08:42 AM

Re: Video of Biondo's win over Fletcher's close call
 
Nice save Thomas!! Made for a great match up. Glad the cars didn't get hurt. I enjoyed. Sorry the score board racers don't see it the same way.


Your either in front or behind you should never be wide open!!

philbilly 06-25-2014 08:47 AM

Re: Video of Biondo's win over Fletcher's close call
 
Just for the record when I watched the video I thought Thomas did a great job saving the car but what about Pete eatin the drop up??anyone got the numbers at the stripe??


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