Re: If you could run a National event without the AHFS in pl
 

I still really don't see the advantage they have when it comes time for eliminations.

Re: If you could run a National event without the AHFS in pl
 

Isn't Class a race within a race?


If your in the eliminator AHFS applies to all, to be fair.


Maybe this will help some understand: Indy is a qualified field of 128 out of 200, so 72 racers don't make the race. Reasons the 72 don't qualify: 1 breakage, 2 missed clutch, car set up and or tune, 3 ink (Read too much horsepower adjustment over the life of the combination). Its the FS/X's ability to miss the ink, that is the smelly end of the stick that everyone including the other new cars who run the natural class dislikes. It will take some time for the AHFS to get them close to where FS/X's need to be, but it will get them. It won't take long to settle them down to where they will be like the rest of us hoping that this last qualifying run will get them in "The Show". 4.5% of 500 hp. is 22.5 hp. or 157lbs in a 7# class.


If you are not the lead dog the view never changes!!!!


Back to work on my combo.

Re: If you could run a National event without the AHFS in pl
 

Tony who gets the first bye, second bye and so on: the FS/X cars.


I wish you would have used a different play on words.

Re: If you could run a National event without the AHFS in pl
 

Joseph
Best Wishes to You.

Mr Morris
My interest in this is a level playing field for all.
This effects me in a small way so am speaking up.
Don't think stick and auto should be combined. If it's unfair to the new cars start a conversation and I will support you.

Mr Corley
If we understand how qualifying and ladder system works there are advantages:
Qualify No.1 will earn you a first or second round bye.
Beiing able to sit at the top or bottom of qualifying able to play the ladder at will can have its advantages avoiding headsups, touigh pairings and friends.

Be well gentlemen!

Re: If you could run a National event without the AHFS in pl
 

Well, that's an unfortunate way to describe yourself simply because you are unable to understand that if there are 3 bye runs, the top 3 cars get first shot at them. That's how it effects the eliminator. They are stealing bye runs, and in their minds they are doing nothing wrong. Its kinda like that lady who parks in the Handicapped spot, and then pays for all of her food (steak, shrimp and all the good stuff) with food stamps and makes a separate transaction for all of her alcohol. Sure, she is playing by the rules, but I have zero respect for a person like that. She sees no problem, screw everybody else, why don't they just do what she does if its such an advantage?......... I would say, because I'm better than that.

Re: If you could run a National event without the AHFS in pl
 

It doesn't matter what any of the rules are. There will ALWAYS be someone screaming foul and injustice.

Some people compete by racing their cars and some people compete by lobbying the rules. There is always a political side to it. Actually the NHRA seems less politically corrupt then other series I've been evolved in.

Then there are guys that complain about anything and everything. Win a million dollars off a 10$ scratch off ticket and complain about paying taxes on it.(not that anyone enjoys paying our own tax burden)

Re: If you could run a National event without the AHFS in pl
 

Now that someone finally explained that it's not an "all run" field, at least that part makes sense now. When I asked the reasoning earlier, the answers, although some being condescending, were totally useless in shedding light on the issues caused. I thought it was an all run field, so qualifying order didn't seem to matter.


Thanks for the ones that took time to give a reasonable explanation.

Re: If you could run a National event without the AHFS in pl
 

Nevermind, politically incorrect humor seems to be losing it's appeal these days.


Sorry if I offended anyone. I'll change my original post. Can't help the quotes though. If they find it offensive, they can change it.

Re: If you could run a National event without the AHFS in pl
 

Tony, the only National Event that is not an "all run" field is Indy; the quota is 200 for both Stock and Super Stock, and 128 cars qualify for each category. Every other National event is "all run" because the quotas are all less than 128.

Re: If you could run a National event without the AHFS in pl
 

Thanks Superfan. As I said, I can understand there being an issue if it affects getting in the field, or even bye runs, for that matter.