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5343stk 12-22-2015 11:04 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
I'm not a mathametician, but 150lbs+ on another car with the same engine usually isn't an advantage...

Merry Xmas

Sean Cour 12-22-2015 11:07 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 5343stk (Post 491142)
I'm not a mathametician, but 150lbs+ on another car with the same engine usually isn't an advantage...

Merry Xmas

From what I hear, it's not the same engine!

Merry Xmas!

5343stk 12-22-2015 11:19 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Cour (Post 491143)
From what I hear, it's not the same engine!

Merry Xmas!

Awesome. I'll be sure to let everyone else with the other low compression 340 engines know for our cars.

We will stand by for a new factor from NHRA....

Merry Xmas!

Sean Cour 12-22-2015 11:24 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 5343stk (Post 491146)
Awesome. I'll be sure to let everyone else with the other low compression 340 engines know for our cars.

We will stand by for a new factor from NHRA....

Merry Xmas!

Lol.....I don't have a dog in the fight. It's just comical to me that fellow combo runners can't get along with themselves.

Happy New Year!

5343stk 12-22-2015 11:46 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Cour (Post 491147)
Lol.....I don't have a dog in the fight. It's just comical to me that fellow combo runners can't get along with themselves.

Happy New Year!

Agree

Mr. Storms,

As a 12 year old, I watched my Dad (Brown Sugar) lose to Harvey Emmons heads up in Brainerd at the NHRA National Finals at BIR in 1987.

Dad was on a roll that day, but we knew he hit the buzz saw when Harvey won the semi's. I think we lost by less than a tenth in the final...

He could have used a few less factored HP that day...

Brown Sugar 12-22-2015 11:49 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
I am the one James is referring to, I have been campaigning my 73 'Cuda for 35 years in stock eliminator. Every time someone causes it to be hit with HP it only makes the value of the car and the combination go down. I do not plan on racing stock in 2016, so Mr. Storms can either continue driving this combo into extinction or he can spend the next few years trying to lower the HP. He will most likely be the only stocker left in the country with this combo so all of his runs will be the class average. It will be interesting to see if he understands now the HP factoring works or will he blindly keep going fast to appease some other short comings he is trying to overcome. I will look into super stock as an option but being retired my financial resources are limited. I am truly sad that 'Cuda's are rarely seen at races anymore and I always have fans tell be how much they like seeing my car.


Dale Findell
formally F/SA, maybe now SS/KA

Jim Storms 12-23-2015 12:06 AM

Re: Horsepowers
 
Dale. I get where your coming from believe me, when spend a certain amount of dollars on what I do to my car, I'm not going to sit back every year and hang low. Sometimes it's nice to see how hard work and determination pays off.

Sometimes you have to let them fly and that's the bottom line, I'm not the only one who ran over 85 under here!! No disrespect to you at all, your son think may think different and that's his opinion, and frankly I'm tired of playing the game of being safe.

Bill Diehl 12-23-2015 10:24 AM

Re: Horsepowers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Storms (Post 491159)
Dale. I get where your coming from believe me, when spend a certain amount of dollars on what I do to my car, I'm not going to sit back every year and hang low. Sometimes it's nice to see how hard work and determination pays off.

Sometimes you have to let them fly and that's the bottom line, I'm not the only one who ran over 85 under here!! No disrespect to you at all, your son think may think different and that's his opinion, and frankly I'm tired of playing the game of being safe.

Exactly....

if the class was run off national records they all would be running them out the back

Another Friendly Racer 12-23-2015 02:38 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 5343stk (Post 491129)
One of the most beautiful body styles around, but they are getting less competitive every time HP comes out. I know of one I'd be surprised to see running Stock next year☹️

How competitive do you need this combo to be? (facetious question)The combo has been so under-factored that it can keep getting horsepower. You're not going to find much sympathy complaining to the folks trying to catch up to this combo.

Chuck Beach 12-23-2015 03:33 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
In all due respects, Jim is a good guy & a hard worker, had the pleasure of meeting him at Indy several years ago. When running a combo (that has only a few cars in the country running that combo) in such a competitive class (G/SA) it is sometimes very difficult to protect your combo in a performance based class, especially if you are running for class honors. In doing so, when there is no one else to help lower your average, & you don't go to that many races. Not trying to take anything away from Jim or make excuses, but here are the numbers for him from Indy. I am sure he did not come all this way to sandbag. He & his combo are up against pretty tough odds. I would think this combo is a little over factored or there would be much more of them out there.

G/SA 5018 Corey Hopkins, North Branch MN, '69 Dart 10.941 12.00 -1.059
G/SA 4689 Paula Cotten, Cave Creek AZ, '73 Duster 11.025 12.00 -0.975
G/SA 1614 Barry Parker, Southwick MA, '74 Corvette 11.027 12.00 -0.973
G/SA 154 Anthony Fetch, Colonia NJ, '69 Camaro 11.030 12.00 -0.970
G/SA 3428 Tom Rambo, Washington C.H. OH, '68 Camaro 11.072 12.00 -0.928
G/SA 6340 Jim Storms, Renton WA, '72 Barracuda 11.096 12.00 -0.904
G/SA 4041 Verne Buchanan, Conway AR, '73 Mustang 11.112 12.00 -0.888
G/SA 1290 James Perrone, Shirley NY, '69 Camaro 11.114 12.00 -0.886
G/SA 49 Jimmy Hidalgo, Donaldsonville LA, '91 Corvette 11.143 12.00 -0.857
G/SA 1058 James Daniels, Yardley PA, '85 Camaro 11.160 12.00 -0.840
G/SA 2035 Mike Welfel, Nashville TN, '69 Camaro 11.184 12.00 -0.816
G/SA 1028 Mathieu Beriault, Richeliea PQ, '69 Nova 11.224 12.00 -0.776
G/SA 1231 Kelly MacKay, Mineville NS, '72 Demon 11.321 12.00 -0.679

104 6340 G/SA Jim Storms, Renton WA, '72 Barracuda 11.071 12.00 -0.929


1st round
Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
6340 Jim Storms 5018 Corey Hopkins
E1 0.045 11.046 117.38 ****WINNER**** 0.071 10.958 115.94
G/SA Dial: 12.00 (+/-): -0.954 G/SA Dial: 12.00 (+/-): -1.042
Qualified: #104 11.071 -0.929 #40 10.941 -1.059

Heads-up!
Corey Hopkins' MOV: 0.0625 seconds (approximately 11 feet).


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