Re: 1.20 under at Belle Rose
 

I think the system works. If guys want to go fast that's their decision. The weather blame is silly. We all have weather stations and data, if the weather looks crazy and the run feels real good then decide fast if you are lifting or run it out especially on a qualifying or class run. If it's heads up final at a National event and you hit the combo you'd be happy.

Re: 1.20 under at Belle Rose
 

I agree Daren with 1.30. If the weather blame is silly then why have the mineshaft rule at all. I mean the mineshaft rule is in place for unusual weather conditions to start with, so do away with that and let all runs count all the time and include Indy as well. If you want the AHFS to work there should be no free passes.
You got a combo that goes 1.20 under at -800 DA and one that does it at Indy at 3500 DA, which one really needs the hp? To say the weather blame is silly is silly.

Re: 1.20 under at Belle Rose
 

Now I can agree with you on that! A few posts back, you brought up the LT-1. Everyone was quick to "jump" on it when it was at 275 HP. Now at 358, it's not-so-good. Maybe the "problem" isn't the way that the AHFS is working but that everyone "jumped" on a good combo, beat it up for their own reasons, and waited too long to "jump" off. Your combo is/was the same, a soft combo that a bunch of smart Racers "jumped" on and now, not-so-good.
IMHO, the AHFS should be in effect for every run at every race no matter what the weather or the phase of the moon. Eighth mile numbers should be looked at too.
And just to make a good point, the Impala SS that kinda/sorta was responsible for getting your combo hit is an LT-1 that's arguably better than an F-body combo but at only 299 HP. So maybe this whole AHFS/ body factoring thing should be tightened up a bit too.

Re: 1.20 under at Belle Rose
 

In the words of Kenny Rogers

"You've got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em"

Re: 1.20 under at Belle Rose
 

So now you want 130 in a mineshaft condition.? I’ve said this before if you go 120 anywhere anytime You Need HP. Where does it stop.? NHRA took 3 tenths of everyone and moved the hp hit from. 1.15. To 1.20. How about not tuning the car up to go too fast
100 lbs of lead will save ya. Like cooter said I mean what Kenny Rodgers said
Please. For Indy put the same 1.20 hit back on and the ahfs will work. Like it should

Re: 1.20 under at Belle Rose
 

That is very true. I can tell you from personal experience that this 1.20 hit deal has caused me more grief than any other part of racing Stock Eliminator. It definitely creates hard feelings and kills friendships. You don't even have to be driving the car at the time.........

Re: 1.20 under at Belle Rose
 

94/96 Impala SS/Caprice 350/260/299 HP LT1 uses a Vortec Iron Head.
1.94/1.50 Valves, Roller Lifters, 72cc Chamber and a F- Body cam at .447/.459 Lift.

94/96 Caprice run in J/SA at 3708 lbs, natural K car
Impala SS run K/SA at 4057 lbs
Natural L car at 4207 lbs
Weighted for M at 4356 lbs.

LT1 Aluminum Head engines are same with 58cc rated with more HP.

LT4 Aluminum Heads have 1.60/1.55 Valves with 1.6 Roller Rockers.
Seeing two cams one at .476/.479 lift and .525/.525 Lift (Hotcam)

Suspect the Hotcam LT4 is the one rated at 358 hp.
This would be the 1996 Corvette.
Aluminum LT4 Heads, matching LT4 Intake, Roller Lifters, 1.6 RR's.
All the important components of a Super Stock Engine.

FWIW Dart made a handful of LT1 Aluminum Blocks.

Re: 1.20 under at Belle Rose
 

No the LT-4 is not the one rated at 358...
Your standard LT-1 is

I don't even think the LT-4 is an accepted combo. Not real sure about that though.....

Re: 1.20 under at Belle Rose
 

The LT4 is a legal stick combination for the 1996 Corvette (only).

Re: 1.20 under at Belle Rose
 

Back in the days you were a hero if you did go fast with your car, now you're an idiot if you do the same,Dragracing is still the most entertaining sport, but these days it has moved behind the keyboard it seems:)

I say use the 1/8 mile numbers and let the Cars finally enter their CORRECT class and then we can go back to real racing again!

(There were a car that went the "the number of the beast" in H/SA on the 1/8 more than once last weekend...not much talk about that one though :rolleyes:)