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SSDiv6 10-28-2021 03:51 PM
Re: New FWD weight breaks!
 
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Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 650951)
Was that "Turbo Action", because I know them as being the authority of Mopar Trannies (especially back in the '90's to the 2K's). I wonder if "A1 Performance Transmissions" and Converters could build you one. Better yet, I wonder what Brent or Stan, and Bill O'Connor use in their cars? I remember my engine builder Verle of "Verle Stevens Enterprises", was told by Marv Ripes (the founder of A1), to have my Turbo 125 converted from lock-up to non-lock-up, and he built me an 8" unit, that stahled up to 3600rpms. Try them, if neither of those two were the one you spoke of?
Yes, Turbo Action had a manual valve body and a torque converter for the A413 transaxle you could buy for the FWD applications through Direct Connection. Forward Motion Performance used to sell them along with a racing torque converter and different gears.

http://www.thedodgegarage.com/trans_guide.html

GarysZ24 10-28-2021 10:41 PM
Re: New FWD weight breaks!
 
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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 651002)
Gary, a VERRRRY belated thanks for the welcome but I've been among the ranks for a long time (maybe even longer than you!). I raced a N/A 85 Pontiac Sunbird and an 85 Turbo Sunbird a long time ago. I don't have any pics but if you go to the classracer photo gallery and search Buff Daddy Motorsports, Mike Carr has a few pics of them.
Billy I've seen many of your successful RWD cars and they were super cool (especially the 4dr Nova). That's awesome that you raced those cars, and I hope you did good with them. Welcome back seems the more appropriate comment to you, and I wish you success with your latest entry! One of these years (God willing), I hope to venture out to your part of the country, so I can see what racing on tracks that have uncorrected barometric pressures of 30+ is like, since I'm not sure what'll be going on in Sonoma since we lost Kyle Siepel :(. In the meantime, I'll enjoy my likely last race in DF/S next week(end), while I wait for the NHRA Tech people to determine what CF/S is going to be. However, I'm stymied by the lbs per hp factor for my car showing up as 20.09? I could've sworn (as recently as the early October Vegas double-header), my cars factor was 19.22? I am stumped by that and actually pleasantly surprised by it, because adding 239lbs is better than adding 375 to run DF/S next year. However, I'm hoping the CF/S index will be raised to 15.50-15.60 instead?

Jim Wahl 10-29-2021 01:13 AM
Re: New FWD weight breaks!
 
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Originally Posted by Tom Meyer (Post 650538)
Our stock ecotec dirt Cavalier would run faster lap times than the V8 hobby stock cars. Weight was the reason. What is the weight penalty for running stick verses and auto in the fwd classes? Tom
Tom, the weight difference is 100lbs to the stick over the auto. Jim


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Billy Nees 12-01-2021 08:15 AM
Re: New FWD weight breaks!
 
The "new" DF/S index is posted. 16.50?
I guess that I'd better get working on Dwight's site and figure out my next victim.

GarysZ24 12-01-2021 10:31 PM
Re: New FWD weight breaks!
 
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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 653083)
The "new" DF/S index is posted. 16.50?
I guess that I'd better get working on Dwight's site and figure out my next victim.
I'm glad to see that and that I also saw the 15.60 yesterday for CF/S, because I had reason to be concerned about it, and did some negotiating with my tech director for it. Now to try and get the funds together to have some headers made for it, so I can one of these years make it worth my while to travel nearly 2k miles to run Indy (and not just be there for two qualifying runs and 1st round of class)!

Bruce Fulper 12-02-2021 06:11 PM
Re: New FWD weight breaks!
 
Are the 2005 Sunfires able to be competitive?

GarysZ24 12-02-2021 07:10 PM
Re: New FWD weight breaks!
 
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Originally Posted by Bruce Fulper (Post 653183)
Are the 2005 Sunfires able to be competitive?
I want to say yes, but if you go to nhraracer.com and go to the Stock Car Classification Guide, you can look that up.

Billy Nees 12-02-2021 07:13 PM
Re: New FWD weight breaks!
 
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Originally Posted by Bruce Fulper (Post 653183)
Are the 2005 Sunfires able to be competitive?
Same as a Cavalier.

GarysZ24 12-02-2021 08:37 PM
Re: New FWD weight breaks!
 
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Originally Posted by Bruce Fulper (Post 653183)
Are the 2005 Sunfires able to be competitive?
I just looked in the guide, and only the 2dr coupe is listed(in the 2005 Pontiac Sunfire section row 43), so you may need to contact NHRA for other versions (ie. 4dr)?

I'm certain once they see the info on other versions (if that's what you have?), then adding it should be no problem.

Marty Knox 12-02-2021 09:39 PM
Re: New FWD weight breaks!
 
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Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 653188)
I want to say yes, but if you go to nhraracer.com and go to the Stock Car Classification Guide, you can look that up.
Gary, you can also go to Dwight Southerland's site, ClassRacerInfo.com. I like the Stock/SS tool better than NHRA's classification guide.


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