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All this push back and negativity over 1%. Amazing. Times are changing.

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So it is about selling

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If it corrects one race then it was all worth it, thanks Peter and Kyle.

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What is it going to be all about when Glendora adopts it for all sportsman classes?? It's gonna be..............TruStart is the best and most fair addition to drag racing in many years.

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http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCSt...r2016#indextop

The worse red light won 3 times in the second round of Stock at Charlotte, . 3 out of 14 pairs is way more than 1%..

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The Spring Fling is not a good barometer because the racers have their reaction time built in to the delay box, where's bottom bulb racers such as Stock uses pure reaction. On that second round at Charlotte, true start was not even in force. The winner of the race could have been one of the early foul racers. It's time for change!


Casey Miles
248H

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Starting to get a little hot in the kitchen now, my sources tell me TruStart will be arriving next year for us NHRA sportsman.

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When they first announced the program, I ran stats for some of our Footbrake events, and saw very similar results, maybe .5% higher.

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Micheal: Were your stats based on a true start tree race or a race where the faster car got the bye? It will make a difference.

Casey

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After using TruSTART at both Spring Fling events (Vegas and Bristol), I am very happy with both how it performed and with the racer feedback. After watching it in action, I am going to say that 85 to 90% of the racers gave positive feedback.

Thanks to Bob @ Compulink and Jeff @ LVMS for helping it to become a reality.

Peter

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A big THANK YOU to Peter and Kyle.......

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They were based on existing, standard tree events, as TruStart has only been used at the two Spring Fling events.

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Two Englishtown stock racers may like trustart about now.

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I'm sure Great Bend runner up is a trustart fan now also.

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Oh yeah................Tex Miller ought to be thrilled.

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
1656 Kenneth Miele 1351 Tex Miller
E1 ****WINNER**** -0.041 8.735 154.67 -0.002 10.863 122.67
FS/XX Dial: 8.70 (+/-): 0.035 E/SA Dial: 10.89 (+/-): -0.027
Qualified: #7 8.685 -1.215 #44 10.843 -0.857
Miller went red. Miele will move on to the second round tomorrow.

When will NHRA wake up???????????

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TrueStart is a must if your looking for fairness. No way did I earn that round. Tex had a way better package then me. In my opinion he was holding just the right amount and with a near perfect light he would have put me on the trailer, even if I was green. I did an absolutely terrible job and don't deserve that round win. I guess I'm just one of those fast guys in the minority that think TrueStart time has come.

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Kenny, did ya see his red? I believe that makes a difference in the equation so it's impossible to include that data for a debate.
Hell yeah, I'm for it, no worries!

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Why would you apologize or say you didn't deserve to win that round?You won that round under current rules (which will probably stay this way until we are all gone). Now go ahead and win the race even if you get 6 more red lights by your opponents and you red light 6 times right behind them, you win!

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I posted on this method, long before it was called TRUSTART several years ago, and asked that same question, repeatedly, usuallly, with nothing but ridicule from Ed Fernandez, who, although he ran a car in a "slow" class and would have benefitted from the change, was steadfastly against it.

Finally, one person suggested that that the first car to leave, enjoying the benefits of a "clean tree," would have that as an advantage and the first red light system as it still exists, would be an equalizing factor.

Other than that, NOBODY ever gave me any legitimate reason. why it should not be changed.

NOBODY,..

And I beat this drum for months... probably years. Long enough that even ~I~ got tired of it. So, I gave up...

It never had any kind of positive response from the people on this board (except for Jim Wahl and a couple more,) until Peter Biondo and Kyle Seipel recently suggested the very same thing.

I was gratified when they did.

As an aside, the whole concept that is TRUSTART came from a bracket racer in Fremont, California (definitely not ME,) named Bob Mikulic. He raced superchaged Studebakers... He explained it to me in detail (I didn't "get it",) back in the 1990's...

It finally sunk in...

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Hey Bernie, I wish I could have used it as an excuse. I was leaving early no matter what Tex did.

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Round 1 at Epping. These 'close' double red situations (which are more common in bracket racing where most racers are playing close to .000), are the situations that stood out to me and pushed us into using TruSTART at our Spring Fling events.

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
1235 Peter D'Agnolo 1140 Tom Boucher
E1 ****WINNER**** -0.012 9.296 133.05 -0.001 9.650 137.16
SS/CM Dial: 9.26 (+/-): 0.036 GT/CA Dial: 9.65 (+/-): 0.000
Qualified: #39 9.333 -0.167 #19 9.620 -0.780