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At this point I just hope I don't get death threats cuz I show up with one :)

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I just located a letter from Zora Duntov stating that Chevrolet actually built 280 1970 Z28's with the off road cam. See you at the races!

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Be looking in your mirrors on the way as well!

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Man, I'm glad nothing like this exists in the Pontiac world. Can I run a hood scoop on the Matador now?

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Noooooooooooooooooooooooo

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Do you think the early Pontiac 3 barrel afb and manifold could get in, bet Norman would really like that!

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Interesting! Could this have something to do with the Tech Dept. suddenly approving an (bogus) Edelbrock intake (and maybe more to come?) for Stock Eliminator?

http://dragracingonline.com/agent132...-xix_2-19.html

This isn't over by a long shot! Keep calling and e-mailing your DTD and California with your thoughts!

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I could understand if they still made the LD340, but it's been out of production for a long time. Modern replacement is in their RPM/RPM Air-Gap series.

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Those intakes are for Thermoquads not AVS's. Jim

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Wait Wait Wait

Hold the presses......

I wonder since the availability of the LD340 is limited will NHRA Tech now allow a superseded manifold to replace the LD340 such as............

Air-Gap
Torker/TorkerII
or
Victor

The jury is still out.....

Tech just gets defensive when questioning their reasoning.....

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Why supercede an out of production aluminum manifold for an out of production cast iron manifold?
Are they that bored over there? I could give them plenty to do.

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It's called justification...................

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What has me concerned here is NHRA has already approved the LD4B for the 273. They pulled off a sneaky approval recently of the LD340. Using NHRA reasoning(not my reasoning), I don't see why the DP4B wouldn't be approved for the 383 and the CH4B for the 413 and 440. They are in the same parts book with the same "aftermarket" P in the part number.
Now, AFTER they have approved these intakes, why couldn't they approve a "replacement" intake just like the 396/375 deal?
Knowing what I know about the AMC Edelbrock intake, I have to say that based on what NHRA is doing with the Mopar intakes, the AMC intake should be legal. And to go one step further, when will NHRA start approving Edelbrock intakes for all makes based strictly on legal precedence?
We're fast on our way to being ET-2!

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Performer RPM should be allowed then, as long as it's painted to match .
C'mon Pontiac guys, jump on board the new NHRA.

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Considering the history of similar policy areas that NHRA has moved in, you are describing a very possible set of events and reasoning that will be applied.

As an example, look at this ad in CR Classifieds: http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=65307
NHRA should do whatever to keep an "entry level" class from even entertaining rules that would justify a set of $1150 valve lifters.

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If they did do ET2 wouldn't it save them a lot of time and money paying tech guys? Could be their new plan, piss everyone off so they quit coming, get rid of those old out of date cars (younger people don't relate to them) so the new boys (cars) can play. It's the "New NHRA". This manifold hits me dead on since I've been building a 70 Duster 340 before the rule changed. I have my engine parts and do not want to start over this late in the game.

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I decided to submit an Ed Winfield carb as a replacement for a 170 CID Slant Six. Any complaints? [sarcasm] Just joking. Talk about a non-available part.

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I have a one barrel from an inline Gray Marine (Chrysler Marine) from 54, I think it was the predecessor to the 170 Carb. It's legal. I also got a giant one barrel from a Red Diamond 450 heavy truck motor. Sorta like a bucket with a flap. Good for 1/8 mile racing, can't make 1/4 before out of gas. Just trying to help my racing buddies.

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Great information,have another beer!LOL

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Guess the new intake doesn't work to bad. I'm reading about the first 9 sec pass by a D/SA. Coupled with some replacement aluminum heads, that sounds like an unbeatable combo. Hats off to the guys that got it approved and put it into action.

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Michael I guess all the 4speed guys need to run munice transmissions also.

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Unlike the AMC apocalypse !!! This one is happening now !!!

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Yep, that was a bad deal for all the AMC racer's that had purchased parts because one racer did not like one particular AMC racer and went and complained to NHRA.

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Oh really??????????????

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Billy,if you want to build one of these combo's, I have a new nos manifold I will sell you for a fair $, if not , then you should go fishing somewhere else

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It's funny the reaction you get when people are caught with their hand in the cookie jar.

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No thanks. Don't need your manifold. I do just fine building and racing REAL Stocker combos.

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.....and I got accused of "throwing that particular amc racer under the bus"..
he never would tell me how I did that so, I kinda see why nobody likes him;)

I got stuck with the same parts as he did....

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Jerry Hatch goes 9.992 @ 130.8 in D/SA at the National Open in D1 this weekend. Congrats to Tom Auger, Jerry Hatch, and engine builder Steve Wann for all their hard work and dedication.

That is one BAD 340. ( Is this a the car with approved intake? )

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Thanks Larry. We worked very hard for 2 years on this combo and yes it does have the intake. Truth is the intake does very little for the performance. The new heads, headers, carb, nos block, dyno pulls, great air, fast track, all played into it. Jerry winning both Wally's the same weekend was so amazing!

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Congratulations to you guys, I'm absolutely blown away with Jerry's performance! I figured somebody would set a new bar soon, but I didn't think it would be so much higher than the last one!!! Looks like I've got a lot of work to do.

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That's right! Better start lobbying for aluminum heads and a new intake!

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So true, and might I add......put Pat Cvengros on SPEED DIAL.....!!!!!

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And if you bring up any factual wrong-doings, watch your butt. The West Coast Mopar Mafia will be out to get you!

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Andrew, maybe we can get the fast burn heads approved. They also have a. Chevy part number.

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This^^^^^^^^^

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the Edelbrock cylinder head has been in use for the last 4 years,why is it a problem now?. 2016 Indy E/SA class winner, why cry now,get over it and get to work

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Get to work my ***! You don't know me but with the exception of one guy, I don't know anyone who has worked longer or harder than I have on our combination. More than 20 converters over the years, a pretty trick 200 trans, Lamb brakes, Elston headers, Parsons motor, hundreds of dyno hours, 10 or 12 carbs and 25 years. Don't lecture me about working on our stuff. Also 25 or 30 camshafts over the years. Give us a set of new heads and we will play.

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Greg, ain't it great? The "Stock Eliminator Welfare Recipient" is telling you to get to work!

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It is!