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Tom Moock 08-30-2019 06:26 PM
Re: "Live From" US Nationals Indy 2019
 
in the old`s days @ Indy all the class winner`s got to teardown, went to a new car dealer shop,

ALMACK 08-30-2019 06:32 PM
Re: "Live From" US Nationals Indy 2019
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adub464Q (Post 596076)
You may be laughing but two are already out from what I’ve heard and the tech guys are doing a pretty good job getting involved with getting this deal straightened out going forward. It actually looks like the tech personnel care about the classes and I’m glad to see it.

Rumor alert from connected tech people: the 1.20 rule will be back in play next year. If you wanted to show off your stuff at Indy with no penalty, this might’ve been the final year for that.
Sorry to hear that.
4 years of fun had to end sometime...

Shaun Quill 08-30-2019 06:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Miele (Post 596077)
Thanks Nick, I couldn't have set it better myself.


On another note as this is a live from thread and not lets bash NHRA every chance we get. Gary Summers is out as his head was incorrect for his combo. So that is two cars out Summers and Brannon.
Aw Man,Gary got tossed? That stinks, I hate to see somebody do so good then loose it.I guarantee he’ll be right back with it corrected and just as fast👍

sska3360 08-30-2019 06:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Stout (Post 596089)
Just verifying. It was the total weight of piston, rings, rod, bearings, bolts, wrist pin?
Total weight of everything except the bearings.

Floyd Staggs 08-30-2019 07:02 PM
Re: "Live From" US Nationals Indy 2019
 
Does that mean #129, #130 and # 131 get put in?

Mike Pearson 08-30-2019 07:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaun Quill (Post 596092)
Aw Man,Gary got tossed? That stinks, I hate to see somebody do so good then loose it.I guarantee he’ll be right back with it corrected and just as fast👍
Having the wrong head on the engine is a major breach of the rules and might earn a year vacation.

Mepprecht 08-30-2019 07:10 PM
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With all of you complaining about NHRA picking the wrong groupings... you are apparently wrong! They did good today picking!

Gary Summers 08-30-2019 07:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Pearson (Post 596099)
Having the wrong head on the engine is a major breach of the rules and might earn a year vacation.
It does not have the wrong head on it . It’s got a d7oe head on it

HawkBrosMav 08-30-2019 07:16 PM
Re: "Live From" US Nationals Indy 2019
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Summers (Post 596101)
It does not have the wrong head on it . It’s got a d7oe head on it
Gary I’m sure you’re frustrated, but could you elaborate on what about your cylinder head got you tossed??

Jeff Stout 08-30-2019 07:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sska3360 (Post 596096)
Total weight of everything except the bearings.
Thank you.

Mike Fuller 08-30-2019 07:36 PM
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Ladder shows Gary Summers as #1 qualifier. Doesn't look like he was DQ'd

Dragrac419 08-30-2019 07:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Fuller (Post 596104)
Ladder shows Gary Summers as #1 qualifier. Doesn't look like he was DQ'd
I was looking at that also and it looks like no one was DQ'd.

Gary Summers 08-30-2019 07:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkBrosMav (Post 596102)
Gary I’m sure you’re frustrated, but could you elaborate on what about your cylinder head got you tossed??
They say d7oe-da and Ford never made that casting number mine are d7oe - dc that I showed the idiots in the casting numbers listings but they didnt make a mistake so I guess these came out on a cobra jet

ironside68 08-30-2019 07:59 PM
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Did they bump comp rd1 to tomorrow? Thanks.

BobbyH 08-30-2019 07:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ken miele (Post 595808)
hey guys, i made this short video when i was in the lanes for stock. Editing photos is taking longer than i thought, so i did this to hold you all over, i hope you enjoy it.

https://youtu.be/s26jpzcriyw
thankyoy//////////////////

Floyd Staggs 08-30-2019 08:03 PM
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I found the stock ladder earlier but now I can't find it.

Dragrac419 08-30-2019 08:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Floyd Staggs (Post 596109)
I found the stock ladder earlier but now I can't find it.
It has been removed from DRC along with the final order.

TERMITE S/G 2122 08-30-2019 08:15 PM
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Its back on drc Repairing

Floyd Staggs 08-30-2019 08:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragrac419 (Post 596110)
It has been removed from DRC along with the final order.
That's what I thought but I'm getting old and don't see as well.

gsa612 08-30-2019 08:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragrac419 (Post 596110)
It has been removed from DRC along with the final order.
It's back up and shows Summers,Brannon, and Gibson DQ'd. gsa612

Floyd Staggs 08-30-2019 08:20 PM
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Looks like 3 alternates got put on.
Still no corrected ladder yet.

Mike Graham 08-30-2019 08:43 PM
Re: "Live From" US Nationals Indy 2019
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Summers (Post 596106)
They say d7oe-da and Ford never made that casting number mine are d7oe - dc that I showed the idiots in the casting numbers listings but they didnt make a mistake so I guess these came out on a cobra jet
I have 2 sets of the DA heads. They must have made both the DA and the DC,but the DA is the only one listed.

Paradigm Shift 08-30-2019 08:48 PM
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I recall the prior notice NHRA released:

"The NHRA Technical Department recently added C5AF- BU & BT to the blueprint specifications for the 1967 Ford 427/425 and corrected a typo for the 1977 Ford 302 122-137 cylinder head and intake casting, D7OE-DC change to D7OE-DA, D7OE-AA change to D7OE-AC."

B Parker 08-30-2019 09:24 PM
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I like the idea that everyone here has a shot at the barn. If you qualify for Indy you have a fast car period!!! Just because your not in the top 25 doesn't mean your car will pass tec. If that was the case why not build a car that will go one under here and always qualify and never have to worry about tear down.

Terry Tec not to pick on you because I used to be one of the older ones that hated all the stuff that has been let go by for years. Buts lets face it very few cars could qualify here if your heads and intake were bone stock. And to be honest with you I don't want to drive a 12 second B/SA. I would be bored to death by now. Stock is not the Stock it was when you were a tec guy. It's only the name of the category that we race. And like I said I don't want to go back to running slow cars. Good luck to everyone Barry

I feel even the none qualified cars should have a chance at the barn. Your here entered taking a spot you should be subject to all the same things all competitors are subject to.

Was there a problem parking? A couple days later and I don't remember and I'm ready for next year. What a bad drug addiction I have. Barry

Floyd Staggs 08-30-2019 09:27 PM
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The ladder is up.

Randy Parker 08-30-2019 09:51 PM
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Fletcher for the win!!

Paradigm Shift 08-30-2019 09:52 PM
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The revised ladder certainly must have an FS/F competitor feeling much better about Indy 2019.

That was going to be a very difficult first round matchup!

I very much enjoy seeing a first time Indy stock winner.

Ken Miele 08-31-2019 07:41 AM
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Good morning all, first round for Stock is up at 8am, but it just started to rain, it doesn't look like it will last long, but it could be heavy. It will delay things and possible change the schedule. This was our schedule for the sportsman this morning.....

Stock E1
Super Comp E4
Top Dragster E1
Competition Elim. E1
Top Alcohol Dragster Q2
Top Alcohol Funny Car Q2
Gasser Q1
Street Car Showdown Exh.
Factory Stock Showdown Q2

Tom Johnston 08-31-2019 07:41 AM
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And.......it’s raining.

robzneed4speed 08-31-2019 08:04 AM
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Thanks for all the reporting everyone. Yo Ken, great shots from the Hemi Shootout, they might make a photographer out of you yet!

Nick Heath 08-31-2019 09:00 AM
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The storm has cleared and the track dryers are out. The skies are still overcast - we might not get help from the sun for a while. No word yet on any schedule changes.

FireSale 08-31-2019 09:11 AM
Re: "Live From" US Nationals Indy 2019
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Graham (Post 596117)
I have 2 sets of the DA heads. They must have made both the DA and the DC,but the DA is the only one listed.

According to the Engine Labs web site the DA and DC heads are identical.


D7OE-DA – 1977-1979, 302, Windsor small-block, 1.78/1.45 valves, 69cc chamber
D7OE-DC – 1977-1978, 351, Windsor small-block, 1.78/1.45 valves, 69cc chamber
D7OE-DC – 1977-1979, 302, Windsor small-block, 1.78/1.45 valves, 69cc chamber


Am I missing something or did Gary get a DQ just because the number wasn't in the book?

X-TECH MAN 08-31-2019 09:24 AM
Re: "Live From" US Nationals Indy 2019
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Heath (Post 596075)
Alright, we get it! NHRA sucks, Stock eliminator sucks and it was so much better 30 years ago, everybody is cheating, etc.
WRONG ! NHRA does NOT suck....Its the idiots running it today ! It was way less expensive 30 years ago. Everyone is NOT cheating.....Just the usual same clowns !
They have screwed up PRO STOCK. They should go back to 1320 ft for the fuel cars and change the engine allowed specs. to slow them down. Most spectators hate the 1000 ft. runs. Stock does NOT suck except its way more expensive today for the working class person.

HR9121 08-31-2019 09:24 AM
Re: "Live From" US Nationals Indy 2019
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by B Parker (Post 596121)
I like the idea that everyone here has a shot at the barn. If you qualify for Indy you have a fast car period!!! Just because your not in the top 25 doesn't mean your car will pass tec. If that was the case why not build a car that will go one under here and always qualify and never have to worry about tear down.

Terry Tec not to pick on you because I used to be one of the older ones that hated all the stuff that has been let go by for years. Buts lets face it very few cars could qualify here if your heads and intake were bone stock. And to be honest with you I don't want to drive a 12 second B/SA. I would be bored to death by now. Stock is not the Stock it was when you were a tec guy. It's only the name of the category that we race. And like I said I don't want to go back to running slow cars. Good luck to everyone Barry

I feel even the none qualified cars should have a chance at the barn. Your here entered taking a spot you should be subject to all the same things all competitors are subject to.

Was there a problem parking? A couple days later and I don't remember and I'm ready for next year. What a bad drug addiction I have. Barry
Barry I like the way you think, interesting idea too about non qualifiers for tear down also.

TOM KASCH 08-31-2019 09:41 AM
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Just announce that stock will have 1[ one] run at the end of the day.

Ken Miele 08-31-2019 09:44 AM
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Alright guys, enough with the crap about how good or bad NHRA is. This a live from thread and I want it to stay that way.

Back to what really matters, racing. Here are the current Super Stockers in the barn....
GT/HA Craig Gualtiere, '05 Cavalier
SS/O Wayne Denklau, '55 Wagon
GT/NA David Jackson, '92 Firebird
GT/FA Todd Frantz, '05 Cobalt
SS/AH James Daniels, '68 Dart

Stock has been pushed to after all the pros are done today. We will be the last class down the track, only one round. Alcohol will start the day around 10:30.

The first photo was just before the rains hit.

Floyd Staggs 08-31-2019 09:48 AM
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Lot's of time to cook up some good grub and bench race and look at all the action.

Glenn Hayes 08-31-2019 11:57 AM
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Thank You for your reports and pictures, they are greatly appreciated!
From the Hurricane State,
Glenn

gsa612 08-31-2019 12:20 PM
Re: "Live From" US Nationals Indy 2019
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FireSale (Post 596151)
According to the Engine Labs web site the DA and DC heads are identical.


D7OE-DA – 1977-1979, 302, Windsor small-block, 1.78/1.45 valves, 69cc chamber
D7OE-DC – 1977-1978, 351, Windsor small-block, 1.78/1.45 valves, 69cc chamber
D7OE-DC – 1977-1979, 302, Windsor small-block, 1.78/1.45 valves, 69cc chamber


Am I missing something or did Gary get a DQ just because the number wasn't in the book?
Is the runner volume (per NHRA) the same on all of those heads?..gsa612

nolongerracing 08-31-2019 12:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gsa612 (Post 596170)
Is the runner volume (per NHRA) the same on all of those heads?..gsa612
No runner volumes for most of those heads. WTF


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