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Charlie A 04-15-2014 08:07 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HEMIDARTDAVE (Post 427921)
My Personal Daily Hemi Dart Fix


http://classracer.com/classforum/att...7&d=1397563264

Liteweight 04-15-2014 09:18 AM

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nice find John.
Here's my thought on this car. Looks like a 68 LO23 due to the round side markers & the rear wheel well mods that ran Super Stock. It was then converted to a 69 either by direction from Ma Mopar because it was with a factory backed team, or was coverted to be current as a Pro Stock in 1970? Then it started it's hand me down status into classes such as this. Of course this is pure speculation.

It has the base colors of the old Joe Teuton Southland flyer Dart

liteweight

input?




http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...ps830cda8a.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5b77539a.jpg

John Boland 04-15-2014 06:14 PM

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I do not know the car, probably at Pittsburgh. When I was in the StockSSDragRacing Yahoo group I would "save all" without looking at all of the pictures... Only organized a handful and I am going through them now looking for Darts. I have over 12,000 pictures.

Charlie A 04-15-2014 07:06 PM

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This was the Tueton dart that was originally the JRT dart.
Not the one you pictured but I can see why you thought so.
Saw the one you pictured a ways back in the topic, as a Pro/Stock with no injectors.
Finding it ???????????

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27..._Hemi_1972.jpg

HEMIDARTDAVE 04-16-2014 11:16 AM

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Daily Hemi Dart Fix

hotrodave 04-16-2014 03:22 PM

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Daryl’s thoughts about the Dart that John posted are pretty accurate. The Dart pictured is the former Hall&Williams 1968 factory Hemi Dart from Cleveland Ohio. Hall&Williams bought it new in 1968 and raced it about four years in SS and later in Pro/S, they installed the 69 grill and tail lights in 70 or 71.
Hall&Williams sold the Dart in 72 or 73 to Bob Porter from Parma Ohio. The pictures that John posted are shortly after Bob purchased the Dart. In those pictures the Dart still has the second Hall&Williams paint job with the purple flake and pearl with purple cobweb trim which was applied by Bobby Nolan (Nolan Brothers) of Cleveland Ohio. Porter later had the Dart painted black with orange and yellow accents. The car was stored away in 75 or 76 and I purchased the car from Bob in 2004.
Many thanks to John for posting those pictures I have never seen any pictures of the car during that time period before and thanks Daryl for encouraging me to post the above information.
Dave

Charlie A 04-16-2014 04:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hotrodave (Post 428094)
Darl’s thoughts about the Dart that John posted are pretty accurate. The Dart pictured is the former Hall&Williams 1968 factory Hemi Dart from Cleveland Ohio. Hall&Williams bought it new in 1968 and raced it about four years in SS and later in Pro/S, they installed the 69 grill and tail lights in 70 or 71.
Hall&Williams sold the Dart in 72 or 73 to Bob Porter from Parma Ohio. The pictures that John posted are shortly after Bob purchased the Dart. In those pictures the Dart still has the second Hall&Williams paint job with the purple flake and pearl with purple cobweb trim which was applied by Bobby Nolan (Nolan Brothers) of Cleveland Ohio. Porter later had the Dart painted black with orange and yellow accents. The car was stored away in 75 or 76 and I purchased the car from Bob in 2004.
Many thanks to John for posting those pictures I have never seen any pictures of the car during that time period before and thanks Daryl for encouraging me to post the above information.
Dave

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...4&d=1394540876 http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...kHOevjqCFt5xmw

Charlie A 04-16-2014 04:10 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HEMIDARTDAVE (Post 428086)
Daily Hemi Dart Fix


http://classracer.com/classforum/att...3&d=1397661354

John Boland 04-16-2014 08:47 PM

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Still going through my pics. Here's one for today.

John Boland 04-16-2014 08:52 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hotrodave (Post 428094)
Darl’s thoughts about the Dart that John posted are pretty accurate. The Dart pictured is the former Hall&Williams 1968 factory Hemi Dart from Cleveland Ohio. Hall&Williams bought it new in 1968 and raced it about four years in SS and later in Pro/S, they installed the 69 grill and tail lights in 70 or 71.
Hall&Williams sold the Dart in 72 or 73 to Bob Porter from Parma Ohio. The pictures that John posted are shortly after Bob purchased the Dart. In those pictures the Dart still has the second Hall&Williams paint job with the purple flake and pearl with purple cobweb trim which was applied by Bobby Nolan (Nolan Brothers) of Cleveland Ohio. Porter later had the Dart painted black with orange and yellow accents. The car was stored away in 75 or 76 and I purchased the car from Bob in 2004.
Many thanks to John for posting those pictures I have never seen any pictures of the car during that time period before and thanks Daryl for encouraging me to post the above information.
Dave

I am happy to "recycle".

Charlie A 04-17-2014 07:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by John Boland (Post 428122)
Still going through my pics. Here's one for today.

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...5&d=1397695796

Liteweight 04-17-2014 03:21 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hotrodave (Post 428094)
Daryl’s thoughts about the Dart that John posted are pretty accurate. The Dart pictured is the former Hall&Williams 1968 factory Hemi Dart from Cleveland Ohio. Hall&Williams bought it new in 1968 and raced it about four years in SS and later in Pro/S, they installed the 69 grill and tail lights in 70 or 71.
Hall&Williams sold the Dart in 72 or 73 to Bob Porter from Parma Ohio. The pictures that John posted are shortly after Bob purchased the Dart. In those pictures the Dart still has the second Hall&Williams paint job with the purple flake and pearl with purple cobweb trim which was applied by Bobby Nolan (Nolan Brothers) of Cleveland Ohio. Porter later had the Dart painted black with orange and yellow accents. The car was stored away in 75 or 76 and I purchased the car from Bob in 2004.
Many thanks to John for posting those pictures I have never seen any pictures of the car during that time period before and thanks Daryl for encouraging me to post the above information.
Dave

Welcome here Dave. It's great to have another LO23 owner step out from behind the curtain onto the main stage. Thankyou for sharing that information for all of us.

My new goal on this thread is to not only get the history on my car, but I think it's really important for this sport to be able to get as much information together as possible on every one of these cars. ie; from day one to current. I know there's alot of previous owners & current owners that frequent this thread that don't want to come out into the public eye because of ??????????????, BUT, by participating & getting info out for all to see & read will have nothing but positive results for not only today, but, for the future of this sport/hobby. There's ALOT of hear say, & inuendoes that is attached to many of these cars. I would like to see as much factual information put together as possible. There's ALOT of people that can share ALOT of very cool information that will benefit us ALL, along with making for some REALLY GOOD reading material. II know we would all welcome old racing stories etc. Bring it on!!!!

So, now I'll step down off my podium, hopefully I've had some influence on you all to come forward. It's win, win!!!!. Both for the history of these very special war horses & with that keeping the value where they should be & not turn into what the Model A prices are today because of a lost generation of interest.

Have a great Easter weekend

liteweight

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Charlie A 04-17-2014 05:41 PM

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Never could have foreseen this topic becoming the historic reference that it has. (609,000 hits)

You are correct Daryl in that REAL information from owners /crew/ family past and present would add credibility and value.

I would love to see a picture of the JRT Dart as it is today.

Do know that I have enjoyed everyone's pictures/stories and the few bits and pieces that I have been able to add here and there.

Got involved (addicted) to this topic all because I was going down memory lane one night and typed "68 Hemi Dart" in the search window on my computer. :)

ww63 04-17-2014 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 428224)
Never could have foreseen this topic becoming the historic reference that it has. (609,000 hits)

You are correct Daryl in that REAL information from owners /crew/ family past and present would add credibility and value.

I would love to see a picture of the JRT Dart as it is today.

Do know that I have enjoyed everyone's pictures/stories and the few bits and pieces that I have been able to add here and there.

All because I was going down memory lane one night and typed "68 Hemi Dart" in the search window on my computer. :)

The JRT dart is as delivered gray primer and black front end, real good car, fender tag , all deletes and if I remember correctly all the thin glass,stick and super stock springs and mini tubs

HEMIDARTDAVE 04-17-2014 07:06 PM

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Original L023 in storage

Charlie A 04-17-2014 07:48 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ww63 (Post 428229)
The JRT dart is as delivered gray primer and black front end, real good car, fender tag , all deletes and if I remember correctly all the thin glass,stick and super stock springs and mini tubs

I can "see" that in my old gray haired mind. Happy to know it is more survivor than salvage.

Thank you.

Charlie A 04-17-2014 07:52 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
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Originally Posted by HEMIDARTDAVE (Post 428232)
Original L023 in storage

Great set of pictures.

Any history of this car you can give?
Understand some might want to keep location an unknown but how it remained so original thru time would be a great read.

HEMIDARTDAVE 04-17-2014 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 428240)
Great set of pictures.

Any history of this car you can give?
Understand some might want to keep location an unknown but how it remained so original thru time would be a great read.

This car has the window sticker and dealer invoice. Here are pics of other paperwork.

Charlie A 04-17-2014 09:08 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
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Originally Posted by HEMIDARTDAVE (Post 428242)
This car has the window sticker and dealer invoice. Here are pics of other paperwork.

Oh yeah!

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...0&d=1397780221

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...1&d=1397780450

Liteweight 04-17-2014 09:42 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ww63 (Post 428229)
The JRT dart is as delivered gray primer and black front end, real good car, fender tag , all deletes and if I remember correctly all the thin glass,stick and super stock springs and mini tubs

Me's thinkin' it's this one WW63?

liteweight

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...%20BO/2006.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0002-1.jpg

hemid68 04-17-2014 09:46 PM

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I just opened my May issue of MuscleCar Review, and who are the stars of the magazine? Our own Daryl with his Dart, plus Dave McDade and his Dart! Great 4 page spread, with two GREAT looking Hemi Darts!
It couldn't happen to two nicer guys!!!
Congratulations guys.
Dan

marfen 04-17-2014 11:25 PM

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Thanks for the kind words Dan.

ww63 04-18-2014 08:17 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 428265)

You are correct, this is the JRT dart. I had Joe Smith in Dallas update the roll bar,ladder bars and wheelie bars etc with the intent to race it some. Only difference now in appearance is the wheels and tires. The wheels are black flat no holes Bogarts to kind of give it that original look. It may come back some day.

chris ok 04-18-2014 08:25 AM

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great Dart, and Buick GS too. 70? I have one.
I have to get back in touch with a friend who was involved in NYC street racing thru the 70's and 80's. He is very knowledgable.
This is such a great thread.
Chris

HEMIDARTDAVE 04-18-2014 09:13 AM

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Bob Banning Dart at Dover

Stewart Way 04-18-2014 03:14 PM

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My first attempt at posting a photo. Hope it goes.
Bill Tanner at the 71 Gators with the SS/AA and The SS/DA Challenger that Terry Earwood drove

Stewart Way 04-18-2014 03:19 PM

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Ron Mancini at the 71 Summernats, Englishtown

Stewart Way 04-18-2014 03:24 PM

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Mancini leaving the line. 71 Summers

Stewart Way 04-18-2014 03:34 PM

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One more. herb Mc at the Gators. Think 71.

Charlie A 04-18-2014 04:43 PM

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May have done the "guard rail" here. Look down the side and you can see some "swipe" marks and no front bumper.

Also noticed one other thing going on.
Look at the droop on that nose. ;)

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...1&d=1397849638

Charlie A 04-18-2014 04:47 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ww63 (Post 428292)
You are correct, this is the JRT dart. I had Joe Smith in Dallas update the roll bar,ladder bars and wheelie bars etc with the intent to race it some. Only difference now in appearance is the wheels and tires. The wheels are black flat no holes Bogarts to kind of give it that original look. It may come back some day.


Be still my beating heart! lol

Wonderful to see it in such G-R-E-A-T condition.

I'm 16 again.....well 61. :)

But you get the point.

John Boland 04-18-2014 07:35 PM

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A couple of pics today...

John Boland 04-18-2014 07:38 PM

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#2

Charlie A 04-18-2014 07:59 PM

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http://classracer.com/classforum/att...4&d=1397864080

JeffD 04-18-2014 08:42 PM

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Daily's Dodge, which was later Bob's Dodge.

Here is another unknown.

HEMIDARTDAVE 04-19-2014 07:04 AM

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Charlie C.

John Boland 04-19-2014 07:53 AM

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Here's Bob's Dodge...

John Boland 04-19-2014 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by John Boland (Post 428408)
Here's Bob's Dodge...

oops

mopar68 04-20-2014 02:26 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewart Way (Post 428352)
My first attempt at posting a photo. Hope it goes.
Bill Tanner at the 71 Gators with the SS/AA and The SS/DA Challenger that Terry Earwood drove

Cool pix, Stewart! Thanks!

M68

Charlie A 04-21-2014 08:05 AM

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Wayne County:

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...qMVBvBPemfvtwi
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/5...yspeedshop.jpg

Already has a drooping nose !


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