Re: Spy shots - Don Garlits Challenger
 

DVORAK has finished that car before that and is now updating it for todays standards, I have seen pictures and it is real sharp !

Re: Spy shots - Don Garlits Challenger
 

Bob....Did he ever sell his red 63 Max Wedge ?

Re: Spy shots - Don Garlits Challenger
 

Not that I am aware of, he said why run the wedge in AA when he could run the hemi ! The 63 is worth big money with the Alum nose.

Re: Spy shots - Don Garlits Challenger
 

1962-1964 Dodge / Plymouth Max-Wedge cars:
Factory built race cars
No warranty
Immediately in Stock Eliminator class.

Can't believe I didn't bring that up a month ago...

Re: Spy shots - Don Garlits Challenger
 

I'm not taking sides, just being objective. But you could drive the Max Wedge cars off of the showroom floor and on the street, legally. The '68 Hemi Cudas and Darts are the closest thing I can think of to the current Challengers. But, of course, those ended up in SS only.

I think that the push for Stock may have been influenced by the fact that they could be finished faster and at a lesser expense than SS. More exposure and sooner, especially with the Ford "threat".

Re: Spy shots - Don Garlits Challenger
 

Exactly, Interesting, 68 glass front cuda with scoop, running with a 440 (GT/CA) or even a 383. I don't remember them coming home this way. What has Super Stock become? Nothing more than bracket racing!!!!!! This is why the SS/AH class has such a following!!!

Re: Spy shots - Don Garlits Challenger
 

Its a 383 in the SSGT/CA. The SS/AH heads up deal has become a millionairs club bastard class with the lack of tech. The engines in some (not all before someone jumps on me) of those cars are more exotic than the pro stock engines of the Hemi Pro Stock era. The decks are cut .400 to .500 to use a lighter shorter piston. The lifter boss angles are sleved and moved along with the rocker shafts mounting for better geometry. Large diameter cams. Some with roller bearings. I still say that at least one or two run a titanium crank. OK....you can flame me but I know better about whats going on. By the way the guys with the GT/CA car are NOT the cars Im talking about.

Re: Spy shots - Don Garlits Challenger
 

Not exclusive to SS/AH ...more the standard in most record setting SS engines..

Re: Spy shots - Don Garlits Challenger
 

I agree on the engines but I still show up at Indy for Thursday and Friday only!! :cool:

Re: Spy shots - Don Garlits Challenger
 

If you look very close to the Challenger you cannot drive it the way it is from the factory unlike the max wedge/hemi cars. the challenger does not have a rear end or rear brakes, it only has a cradle for an independent rear suspention from a mercedes E class without the center section and drive shafts so it can roll. I did not see a wiring harness. It had an interior with Viper seats ,dash ,gauges and even power windows and comes with 4 steel wheels and SNOW tires. It has mark williams front brakes and a transmission ( not drivable ) just so the engine can sit in place. Al you had to do with the old Hemi/Wedge cars is to put slicks and race. By the way I think the Cobra Jet was a much better deal. It's a ready race car...Luke