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Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case

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Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 216270)

A good stock eliminator motor will make about 1 and 1/2 times it's rated hp. If your motor only makes it's rated hp it probably won't run the index.

My point exactly. The HP numbers in the guide are a factor. They haven't been real HP numbers in a long time.

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case

How about engines that don't make what they are factored hp?
A factory LT1 won't make anywhere near the Stock Eliminator hp factor.

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case

Here is something to think about, after doing the stats for this past weekend's events, the new Top Guns have 1 PT Cruzer, 8 Challengers, 1 2010 Mustang
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh boy.

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case

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Originally Posted by Nitro Joe Jackson (Post 216300)

Here is something to think about, after doing the stats for this past weekend's events, the new Top Guns have 1 PT Cruzer, 8 Challengers, 1 2010 Mustang
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh boy.

Suprise suprise! LOL

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case

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Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 216288)

My point exactly. The HP numbers in the guide are a factor. They haven't been real HP numbers in a long time.

Why should they reflect current power levels? If you keep adding power to every engine combo, pretty soon the top class cars will be made illegal since the weight/power ratio will bump them out of SS/AA and AA/SA, etc. Pretty soon the Hemis, 427 Camaros, Shelby Mustangs, etc. would be bumped out if the HP factor was put in line with current power levels. A SS/AH Hemi is now over 1000HP in a 3000 pound car. I'm sure most of the big block engines would be in the same situation. Would you want a 350 Camaro racing in SS/AA with the big block combos not legal anymore? This would be an extreme case, but shows the potential for class creep.

I always thought that NHRA and IHRA should keep one engine combo at a constant power level and all the rest moved up and down to even the playing field. My choice would have been the Race Hemi's at 500 HP, but the SS/AH cars are now at 507. I think the 500 HP number reflected the power level of a 1964 Race Hemi when it left the factory in 1964. Food for thought and strictly my opinion (which I'm sure doesn't count for anything). Thanks for listening to an old goober.

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case

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Originally Posted by James L Miller (Post 216428)

I don't think that they should, but there is a lot of talk on here about how the new cars should be factored that way. My point is that all entries should be treated equally.

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case

Has anyone noticed what car was the #1 qualifier in SS at Maple Grove?
Yes it was a 2010 Mustang Stocker.I think he went 9.95 in ss/ja..
Not too under factered?

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case

James....Chris built a SS motor for that car.....it's not the stocker engine...that ran in indy....

Rock

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case

Rock please refresh my memory. How much did you say that bridge in New York City cost?

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case

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Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 216737)

Rock please refresh my memory. How much did you say that bridge in New York City cost?

I don't know anything about bridge pricing in New York but I am a friend of Chris Holbrook. He would never bring a knife to a gun fight. That was his SUPER STOCK spec engine.