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I assume this isn't happening.


-Toby

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Billy...I don't owe you or the horse you rode in on...squat! I don't know how to make it any clearer.

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What I want to know is, with all of these extra performance parts approved for various combos, not just the AMCs, does it really feel like an accomplishment when you outrun the next guy who runs the parts his car came with? Running a second under with the autolite carb and cast iron intake, I'm sure, feels like a huge accomplishment. Won't the aftermarket parts dilute that? What is the point in going 1.40 under when you could go 1.00 under or more with the stock stuff? Obviously, the horsepower factors are never going to be perfect, but if Mr. Lee ran 10.50s 7 years ago, it definitely was not a bad combination before the 780 Holley, aluminum intake, and big cam. I would much rather run fast with a legit combination than a soft one, but I guess that's why I have no desire to run a new car.

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Andrew I don't see to many stockers with stock parts
Acid ported heads and intake
Aftermarket pistons, rods, valves, cams, roller rockers
Metric Trans that was never offered in the 1960's and early 70's
Your beloved 1960's and 1970's stockers are far from stock as new cars. Old combos are as much of the problem as new combs.

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Anybody that submits specs to NHRA for parts that were questionably never installed by the manufacturer should at least publish the said specs for his peers to read.
You don't owe me squat but you sir, in my humble opinion, are a liar and a cheater! And I don't know how to make it any clearer.

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It shouldn't be a bad combination! Before he got all of these new parts approved he worked the HP committee for a 25 HP reduction. All of these affected combos have already been given HP reductions prior to the new parts.

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Thats not true I was at Ford (E&F Engine and Foundry) from 1966 to 1980 at the time this is not true only the 68 early 10 car build by Stroupe had the aluminum intake along with the lite weight valves!

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I have always been told that the original 50 Cobra Jets had the PI intake and I'm sure that paperwork exists. I believe that the 68 CJs should get the intake but not the 69s.
PC is Pat Cvengros. Send your letters and hate mail to him.

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ClassRacer.com has become a powerful sounding board and in my very humble opinion, a Stock Eliminator Rules Committee should be formed within it's members to present to NHRA with a plan to repair Stock Eliminator.
Members with strong voices and knowledge like, Billy Nees, Dwight Southerland, Mark Yacavone and Jeff Teuton are my candidates.
We have a strong coalition, let's use it.

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The cars built with the PI aluminum intake were run in S/S only. Stock had to use the cast iron intake. It has been that way up until 8/21/12 when the bogus change got put in the spec sheet.