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Ed Wright 12-03-2012 03:13 PM

Re: GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show
 
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Originally Posted by denbreeden (Post 358972)
I thought the SS guys didn't want the new cars in their class either.

Not with those bogus HP ratings.

denbreeden 12-03-2012 03:59 PM

Re: GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show
 
SS/JA sounds about right......

rocknrolla 12-03-2012 04:01 PM

Re: GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show
 
Why not rate all engines at what they actually make and treat both new and old combinations fairly?

NHRA has all the runs with all the engine combos, how fast they ran, and how heavy the cars were. Get the actual horsepower of each run and then average that horsepower for that engine combo. It could be done in minutes with an Excel formula. I’m sure it would be more exciting for everyone if they could advertise real horsepower numbers. Considering a Stocker makes roughly 1.7 times the rated horsepower to go a second under I am guessing the class weight breaks would have to change dramatically. 4lbs class anyone?

Ed Wright 12-03-2012 04:24 PM

Re: GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show
 
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Originally Posted by denbreeden (Post 358981)
SS/JA sounds about right......

There are both Mustangs and DPs there, and others.

Ed Carpenter 12-03-2012 04:25 PM

Re: GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 358970)
Jeff, how about simply putting realistic HP ratings on the new "crate engines", all three brands. (all 4 barrels connected and wide open) The rest of us aren't the problem. No need to change everybody else's ratings, or weights. We aren't the ones screwing everybody else over in class or heads up pairings.

Ed I was hoping you won that mega lotto the other day. Remember when you told me if I won the lotto I'd buy one of each and run the s%&t out of them every week until they could only run .90 under wide open? LMAO

Bruce Noland 12-03-2012 04:28 PM

Re: GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show
 
The fact is the new cars are no where near out of the way of the older cars. Just visit the guides if you can't understand this problem. I'm tired of hearing this lie.

What we have here is a case of racers taking advantage of fellow racers with nhra's assistance. Just because nhra is a corrupt organization does not mean that the new car racers have to follow along. It would be refreshing to see the new car racers get together and seek their own classes through nhra. The new car racers trample the older cars enroute to class finals and then have to run each other anyway. Crass selfishness is truly an ugly disease. And impossible to disguise. We see it for what it is.

nhra and the OEM's aren't going to stop until there are only three body styles left.

I've recently heard that there is a supplemental complaint being filed against nhra and the OEM's. Something to do with nhra providing a service to the OEM's rather than behaving like a legit not for profit sanctioning body. Who knows how all this will end.

Greg and Alan are right on the money!

Jeff Teuton 12-03-2012 04:29 PM

Re: GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show
 
I currently have a proposal into NHRA for just that. A/FX and B/FX, basically blown and unblown which would remove a lot of the cars, but they would still be in stock with their own index. If you hit them, it would be shoe polish to shoe polish. Hopefully it will get some traction. See, I'm on yall side. Yall do know Bob Dennis put up $25K to each manufacturer to help get the heat off of him. Just thought I would mention that. That's an idea, call it the BD approach. Find a real sleeper out there and run it. Old car, go fast, nobody ever looked at it, yep Bob Dennis approach. Sorta like the LS1 Corvettes, nobody knew. This is gonna be a long off season.

Ed Wright 12-03-2012 04:31 PM

Re: GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show
 
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Originally Posted by deuces wild (Post 358987)
Ed I was hoping you won that mega lotto the other day. Remember when you told me if I won the lotto I'd buy one of each and run the s%&t out of them every week until they could only run .90 under wide open? LMAO

And, I would.

Jeff Teuton 12-03-2012 04:39 PM

Re: GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show
 
Bruce, I have found your sleeper; A 38 Hudson Hornet Fastback, inline 6 cyl, 578 CI, Red Diamond, factored @ 200 hp, makes over 900 lb Tq. Already accepted by NHRA. They were only available in Red color. Carb looks like a bucket, but Quick Fuel has an accepted piece. I can't be much more help that that. Runs U/SA, and Capt Jack already has the prototype. Anybody know what a Red Diamond is? Hint, you gotta be old.

Bruce Noland 12-03-2012 04:43 PM

Re: GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show
 
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Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 358993)
Bruce, I have found your sleeper; A 38 Hudson Hornet Fastback, inline 6 cyl, 578 CI, Red Diamond, factored @ 200 hp, makes over 900 lb Tq. Already accepted by NHRA. They were only available in Red color. Carb looks like a bucket, but Quick Fuel has an accepted piece. I can't be much more help that that. Runs U/SA, and Capt Jack already has the prototype. Anybody know what a Red Diamond is? Hint, you gotta be old.

Sounds like something you would ask for but undercover of course!


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