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I think Mr Gray has shown where the problem lies. There is so many ingenious and talented people who race in Class, Comp, S/G& S/C and brackets that I'm sure, they can built a safe and affordable unit of their own choosing without having being forced to buy just one NHRA proven system. This is North America where mechanical talents are still valued, I've flown many type of aircraft and I depend on the aircraft mechanics to use Millbar pliers for installing the safety lock wire so important in Aviation, why couldn't we trust this system for all bolts system. Let's see and compare the price: $2@foot , bolts with hole $2. Never in my life have I ever seen a bolt once secured back off. Claude Ruel

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don't care who or what you believe, the matter is closed and of no concern or business of yours and 99.9% of those that have posted on that cesspool.

Oh and as to the collector tethers, if required, I'll be buying a pair, $200 is a drop in the bucket for me no mind the vast majority of class racers given what we have spent on our racing operation.

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I have never heard of or seen any Stock or Super Stock losing a collector. Does this happen often and I don't see it?

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I would have to say that about 95% of the ones I have seen come off have been on super class cars (about 4 total in 43years racing) jmo

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As stated, don't know them nor do I care, your statement to the contrary of many others was the topic, as your views seem to skew from the majority. Not that the majority is always right but it's doubtful they're always wrong.

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Joe,

Dont waste any more time or effort on this guy. He is a wannabe has been. Thats been proven time and time again.

I have no official comment any further other than that.

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I am all for safety, but how this went down is what bothers me. A while back NHRA tells us we need to have these but wait you can not buy them yet. It felt like someone had an idea and went to NHRA to get them to require and appove their design, then the manufacturing could proceed.
As for NHRA Approved products, has anyone considered the fire extinguisher mount? You could buy one from a supplier that produced both an approve and not approved version. Guess which costs more?
Who knew hose clamps were not be acceptable.
As for me, I do not think teathers are necessary if one is doing a thorough maintanence check on there race cars. But it is their sand box and if I want to play, I would make my own version using the same clamps and cable design with materials bought direct at a lower expense. Sure, the cars cost us a lot but it does not mean we have to spend more than we have to. We all have spent money on performance products that did not live up to the quality, fit and performance expectations to justify the expense.

my $.02

Bob

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It's to bad some people got hirt by parts falling off cars. I already had my collectors fastened at primary pipes and to the trans cross member before the atco issue . Money is alway an issue . Is the collector teather rule for all the bracket cars too .

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I might be a bit confused,BUT, just how much more money do I have to spend to go racing? All these little "oh by the ways you need this now" is getting to be too much. I haven't had any collector problems in 32 years of running this car, and I can see where these teather thingies will be a problem getting the car on and off the trailer.John Kissel K242

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Who exactly thinks this way? That is not what I am hearing at Indy...Many are P.O.ed.