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cicero819 07-12-2015 07:55 PM

Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I??
 
I saw the add also and I have to agree, this is a Steal with a capital S. I have about $15k in my stocker with no paint or fuel,brakes lines etc. I have a Bud Rowe motor(used of course for $5k and I stole that one, i guess someone wanted a new racer in stock so decided to sell me their spare engine as a gift, we dyno'd the engine and wow! did they ever give us a good engine. I should have bought a complete racer because I would be racing it now. This car looks like a deal. Claude Ruel.

Alan Roehrich 07-12-2015 09:35 PM

Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I??
 
For those who ask why it costs what it costs:


You have to understand that if you're buying a set of top of the line heads, part of what you're paying for is the experience and knowledge of the guy doing them. For example, I pay Jimmy and Chris at Bridges Performance for Jimmy's 50+ years of experience plus the years of experience Chris brings to the equation. Not to mention the fact that there's well over 40 hours of work in a set of Stock heads if you start with a pair of bare old used castings. So yeah, you're going to pay $5K or more for a set of heads.

The same thing applies to engine builders. You pay guys such as Darrell Wikle, Jeff Taylor, Brian Tilburg, Bobby Warren, Gary McGlasson, and Steve Ficacci as much for what they know as you pay them for what they do.

HandOverFist 07-12-2015 09:41 PM

Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I??
 
Not so much the cost as I understand that part. I was just wondering how much performance gain from head work alone (ballpark figure).

Alan Roehrich 07-12-2015 09:49 PM

Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HandOverFist (Post 476193)
Not so much the cost as I understand that part. I was just wondering how much performance gain from head work alone (ballpark figure).

Rich, the only honest answer is "it depends", on how good the heads you have are, on how able your short block is to take advantage of them, and on what else you have to make them work. If the heads are the only thing holding you back, you have a true low budget set, and you get a top notch set, they could be worth 2 tenths or more.

jamie2370 07-12-2015 09:53 PM

Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I??
 
A set of top of the line heads and intake is worth a BUNCH!!! It's not about porting more than proper air flow. You can't just hog them out and expect them to run. It is all about how to get the most air through them the most efficient way. I would say a #1 set with matched intake should be worth around at least 40hp and that should be 3-4 tenths or so. What people fail to remember is .60 under today is .90 under a couple years ago. So builders had to work really hard to overcome that .3 deficit that NHRA handed out.

dustin423k 07-15-2015 12:33 PM

Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I??
 
Still in the market for a car.

Legend, thanks but I really want something that will run G-I.

Johnny Rod -" Wow !!!!!!!!!! is all I can say. You guy's are a bunch of negative jerk off's . This is why we don't have any new racers in our class I read all the posts It would scare anyone away. That's not how to build our class. My advise!!!! Buy the car looks like a great deal . And surround your self with positive racers and have fun. And stop asking advice from keyboard racers." Noted and looks like fun. I will have something at the track soon with shoe polish in hand and a weather station, it's just a bracket race until your draw the wrong guy right!??

FLEMING 07-15-2015 02:28 PM

Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I??
 
G/H/I is a rough place to be. thats where my car falls.. Just dont worry about trying to spend what everyone else does.. Go race and have fun..

countrypuppy4865 07-15-2015 06:27 PM

Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I??
 
Dustin, don't be discouraged. I think the car is a good deal. In D4 you should be able to move around and learn how to dodge the fast guys. You will generally have 1 or 2 fast ones in each class.

HR9121 07-15-2015 10:38 PM

Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dustin423k (Post 476484)
Still in the market for a car.

Legend, thanks but I really want something that will run G-I.

Johnny Rod -" Wow !!!!!!!!!! is all I can say. You guy's are a bunch of negative jerk off's . This is why we don't have any new racers in our class I read all the posts It would scare anyone away. That's not how to build our class. My advise!!!! Buy the car looks like a great deal . And surround your self with positive racers and have fun. And stop asking advice from keyboard racers." Noted and looks like fun. I will have something at the track soon with shoe polish in hand and a weather station, it's just a bracket race until your draw the wrong guy right!??

Dustin I sent you a pm. Good luck

RANDY PAYNE 07-16-2015 11:59 AM

Re: New to Stock - Buying an 85 Camaro G/H/I??
 
I will say this the people you are dealing are straight up could not a nicer family to deal with biggg


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