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7423 02-07-2016 03:52 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
Great Sunday entertainment...................this thread is the best EVER !!
Just one wow after the next.
Carry on.

goinbroke2 02-07-2016 03:54 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
Actually Michael, I thought he was baiting him until he posted that.
Nobody can truly believe weather stuff is "hooey" can they?

LMAO as well!

Bruce Noland 02-07-2016 04:57 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goinbroke2 (Post 494837)
Actually Michael, I thought he was baiting him until he posted that.
Nobody can truly believe weather stuff is "hooey" can they?

LMAO as well!

It sure is Hooey when it comes to this Red Light discussion.

L Peterson6261 02-07-2016 05:13 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys dad (Post 494694)
Good idea I like it -

I wonder since you are in favor of eliminating the "first" rule why not the "worst" rule - from the "first or worst"

You both lose - I am sure I will be told what is wrong with that.

I see nothing wrong - you both left early and you should both be out.

Go ahead - unload on that idea.

Means no competitor moves on - if it is a final round there is no winner - now it really gets complicated to go back to semis or "divi" up points and money.

So what - you red lit - you lose

I am entitled to my humble opinion

I like your opinion Ronnie!! My Opinion... do away with all the "driver assist" electronics and lets go back to 1970's style racing where the best driver wins!! Lets race without all the electronic tools that can make anyone a good driver - we could start with removing reaction times from the time slip. Or... maybe it's time we just go to racing with remote cars and save us all a LOT of $$$. - Like someone else said, maybe I'm just getting to old for all this crap! Or if I'm not to old maybe I've just been doing it for to long. I really like Wally's original idea of drag racing... put two cars beside each other and the first one to the other end wins!

bill dedman 02-07-2016 05:22 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
Bruce said, "You are not a racer..."

I have two cars I run brackets with, currently; a 1972 Valiant with a supercharged (Vortech) 360 Magnum that runs high 11's and a turbocharged, slant six-powered 1964 Valiant which also runs high 11's, and though neither is a class-legal car, they both run off rules that mirror NHRA rules insofar as starting line procedures go.... including the archaic, "first red light loses the race." protocol..

So yes, I have a vested interest in where this issue goes.

Additionally, this forum exists for comments from people who have no NHRA permanent number; that's its stated purpose. Just because somebody may not be runnning a car in Stock/S-S competition right now, is no indicator of the validity of their posts. Ideas can come from anywhere, and the poster may have been an NHRA racer for years (like me,) or a drag strip tech, for years (like me,) or have been a student of the sport for a lot of years, (like me,) and have opinions on the current rules... and this is the place to talk about them.

There is, I believe, another forum, for people who have an NHRA permanent number to post in, if they want. At least, there was at one time... That may work better for you. Dunno...

Bruce Noland 02-07-2016 05:31 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
Thanks for your admissions. Similar rules for bracket racers have nothing to do with us. Nice try at obfuscation. Wish I knew how to make all those immature little doodles that Beard uses.

bill dedman 02-07-2016 06:18 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland (Post 494851)
Thanks for your admissions. Similar rules for bracket racers have nothing to do with us. Nice try at obfuscation. Wish I knew how to make all those immature little doodles that Beard uses.

"You're not a racer."

Not true.

Starting line rules for bracket races, one way or another, have EVERYTHING to do with ME.

That's why my interest us focused on what happens to this upcoming change; bracket rules (starting-line procedures) are usually identical or, almost-identical to what happens in NHRA Stock and Super Stock.

If TruStart is implemented in Stock and S/S, on a national basis, I'm fairly sure that brackets will be next.

I think the odds are looking favorable for that, now. Just my opnion.

Bunkster 02-07-2016 06:21 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
Mr. Dedman, you’ve been quite correct all these years on this subject. The abuse you’ve received has been truly surreal. That finally…someone…somewhere is going to see the light…makes you understand how Whittaker Chambers felt when they said he was lying.

For your own peace of mind, know you owe no one an explanation of your position. If anyone asks you to explain why the worst red light is where things ought to be, ignore them. If it has to be explained, they’ll never understand the explanation.

The Hawk 02-07-2016 06:42 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 494785)
The red light needs to happen in real time without delay. If I go red I want to know so I can do something positive on the run: 1. save my equipment for the next heads-up run where the worst red light looses, 2. manage averages for the AHFS, 3. test, and 4. practice driving the stripe.

I haven`t had time to read all of these thoughts and posts, but if both racers go red the winning driver`s dial in will flash, so you will know as soon as the quicker racer leaves.

Bruce Noland 02-07-2016 06:45 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
OK Bill you're a bracket racer. No major sanctioning body will open this can of worms.


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