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Coleydog 08-17-2017 02:56 PM

Re: New A/SA In Minnesota
 
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Originally Posted by Rob Wright (Post 541955)
Are you saying the AHFS is not effective?

Let's suppose all the factories got together & gave NHRA a billion dollars to allow their 500 HP cars to run with a 100 HP rating.

Would racers with the 100 HP-rated cars get penalized for running too far under the index on average and on the spot if it is really extreme?

I'm still trying to understand why HP ratings are a problem, since they have always been grossly underrated since at least the early to mid-sixties and the NHRA has the AHFS in place to balance out the playing field.

Pretty sure after 50 years NHRA know what the early engines are capable of, maybe not so with the new ones yet and the AHFS only works at 1320 ft not 1000.

GUMP 08-17-2017 03:05 PM

Re: New A/SA In Minnesota
 
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Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 541958)
That motor would make probably 100hp more than Larry's old 440!

The one that got a HP reduction and wins class all over the place? (no offense Larry. You know I love Ya)

my69396 08-17-2017 03:30 PM

Re: New A/SA In Minnesota
 
That is what I was talking about. The body in white cars/ wrecks built as a stocker/super stocker is what I meant not vin numbered cars. I know of some fords that were body in white or wrecks that were made into cobra jet cars but they didn't have the rear axle issue. But on a GM car and the drag pack cars they have a rear axle issue if they aren't made that way ie COPO factory drag pack. But that is just my thinking.

Pedigo Perf 08-17-2017 03:40 PM

Re: New A/SA In Minnesota
 
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Originally Posted by my69396 (Post 541970)
That is what I was talking about. The body in white cars/ wrecks built as a stocker/super stocker is what I meant not vin numbered cars. I know of some fords that were body in white or wrecks that were made into cobra jet cars but they didn't have the rear axle issue. But on a GM car and the drag pack cars they have a rear axle issue if they aren't made that way ie COPO factory drag pack. But that is just my thinking.

As I understand it, ALL 2008 and later cars can run a 9" rear end, IRS can be replaced with hard axle. Moser will sell you the approved kit if you want.

Rob Wright 08-18-2017 08:15 AM

Re: New A/SA In Minnesota
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Coleydog (Post 541964)
Pretty sure after 50 years NHRA know what the early engines are capable of, maybe not so with the new ones yet and the AHFS only works at 1320 ft not 1000.

So if he races to the 1000' mark, does that make him more consistent to his dial-in?

And if he decides to stay in it to the 1320' on his 1000' dial-in, will he win?

I suppose the answer is "yes" if he's running class, but then he stands a chance of getting HP added if he runs too far under his index. Correct?

Coleydog 08-18-2017 10:20 AM

Re: New A/SA In Minnesota
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Wright (Post 542006)
So if he races to the 1000' mark, does that make him more consistent to his dial-in?

And if he decides to stay in it to the 1320' on his 1000' dial-in, will he win?

I suppose the answer is "yes" if he's running class, but then he stands a chance of getting HP added if he runs too far under his index. Correct?

Since day one it's called sand bagging, done in every kind of sport and enterprise. IMO when you see someone bury the record they're either not thinkng or trying to drum up business (that engine flies, I want one).
Mike

Rob Wright 08-18-2017 10:30 AM

Re: New A/SA In Minnesota
 
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Originally Posted by Coleydog (Post 542012)
Since day one it's called sand bagging, done in every kind of sport and enterprise. IMO when you see someone bury the record they're either not thinkng or trying to drum up business (that engine flies, I want one).
Mike

So you agree then that it really does not impact guys with older cars if a guy with a newer car buries the record & gets HP piled all over himself?

junior barns 08-18-2017 12:20 PM

Re: New A/SA In Minnesota
 
NEW OR OLD doesn't matter!! If a car goes stupid fast whether it's in really good air or not it should get hit!! Just look at the car that went 9.98 in D/SA! So what will it go at indy, 10.15??

junior barns 08-18-2017 12:25 PM

Re: New A/SA In Minnesota
 
The car or cars in question should be bad fast !! I'm sure Mr Sherman will make who ever comes, show all they got!!

Jeff Teuton 08-18-2017 12:43 PM

Re: New A/SA In Minnesota
 
J. Allen. Jump in here and stir this pot. Need a big spoon.


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