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Dyno 04-08-2025 08:59 PM

Re: New shifter rule poll
 
As we all know, neither car came with a Turbo 200, but they both use them.

J.R. Haddad 04-08-2025 09:47 PM

Re: New shifter rule poll
 
Paul Precht, while I fully understand your comment about the '69 Camaro
having a Turbo 400 in it, the reality is that the horse is so far out of the barn,
that the horse out of the barns offspring have gone to the big glue factory
in the sky, a long time ago!!

J.R.

PS- the guy that built the valve bodies for the 400's name was Adam. His
wife Eve ran the front office.

Mike Merk 04-08-2025 11:19 PM

Re: New shifter rule poll
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyno (Post 711280)
So, let?s say I have a 69 Camaro running in A/SA with a Turbo 200 transmission and my opponent is running a 99 Camaro in A/SA with a Turbo 200. Heads up race, but he/she has the TA auto shift in their car. Why should they have a precise shifting advantage over me? Just because they have the newer car? About time NHRA is making things equal for everyone. Dyno

So I can start my A/SA 69 Camaro build now and install that port fuel injection like the 99 has?

john ancona 04-08-2025 11:56 PM

Re: New shifter rule poll
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Merk (Post 711291)
So I can start my A/SA 69 Camaro build now and install that port fuel injection like the 99 has?

Maybe many on here would be better off keeping their absurd ,unreasonable statements to them self's , many on here are only trying to covey change is needed with in reason , taking a BBC 69 Camaro ,and installing fuel injection, has nothing with running a Metric 200 ,rather it's a C4 ,Torque Flight, or any other transmission in cars that did not come in them ,that was decided years ago , the topic here is with all the auto internal shifted automatics with a governor already running in stock, and is there a need to use a external auto shifting device rather than a internal one.

SDmopar 04-08-2025 11:58 PM

Re: New shifter rule poll
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Merk (Post 711291)
So I can start my A/SA 69 Camaro build now and install that port fuel injection like the 99 has?

Your 69 Camaro combo with a complete aftermarket engine is not going to benefit from fuel injection as much as the aftermarket parts your allocated. The HP ratings compared to comparable Dyno numbers point that out weekly that the gen 4 Camaros are way over factored with the components allowed.

john ancona 04-09-2025 12:22 AM

Re: New shifter rule poll
 
So far on here I have yet to read the real reason that the external shifting devices were
going to be allowed in 2026, from my experience in Super Stock the agility to change the shift points between rounds to change the et was a benefit for me ,and others, it has evolved to not only change the shift points between round to control the shift points along with other electronic functions ,I am not going to go into all that electronics have helped in et predictions , again it all has to do with a level playing field with the new cars with electronics ,and the old cars with some electronics but not all the new cars have .

Mike Gray 04-09-2025 11:53 AM

Re: New shifter rule poll
 
I mentioned earlier I don?t care one way or the other but if It?s yes or no, I?ll vote no.
I have the ?agility ? to change shift points between rounds also, it?s called shift light. Just move the little dial on the tach and boom, my shift point has changed 😁
For me it?s ?keep it simple? too much wiring, air bottles and timers is just more ways to have a problem crop up at the wrong time. From my old days of running super gas I know the more buttons, linkage, air bottles and timers I can adjust the more ways I find to lose.

L.Fite 04-09-2025 04:34 PM

Re: New shifter rule poll
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Precht (Post 711287)
That's a good point but IMO a 69 Camaro in A/SA should have a Turbo 400.

Or a stick!
AKA; A/S

L.Fite 04-09-2025 04:48 PM

Re: New shifter rule poll
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by john ancona (Post 711292)
Maybe many on here would be better off keeping their absurd ,unreasonable statements to them self's , many on here are only trying to covey change is needed with in reason , taking a BBC 69 Camaro ,and installing fuel injection, has nothing with running a Metric 200 ,rather it's a C4 ,Torque Flight, or any other transmission in cars that did not come in them ,that was decided years ago , the topic here is with all the auto internal shifted automatics with a governor already running in stock, and is there a need to use a external auto shifting device rather than a internal one.

It's called "Mission Creep"...
Or boiling the frog...
Or Santa's Magic Dust...
A little for me...
A little for the reindeer...
A little more for me...
A little MORE for me...

That's how yu get to '69 Camaro with roller lifters and fuel injection in Stock Eliminator...

Just sayin'

Oh yeah...
Forgot 9" with a four link...
And coil overs!...

Dean Feiock 04-09-2025 04:54 PM

Re: New shifter rule poll
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 711176)
POLL Within a Poll

I figure we might as well all know exactly what we're talking about here..

Who is racing a car in Stock with an original electronically controlled transmission?

1, Billy Nees
next ....

Mark, please define "original electronically controlled transmission". To my knowledge this has always been a gray area within NHRA.

Is it legal to run an internal electronic solenoid shifted valve body in a car like mine that only had a computer controlled TCC from the factory?

Or is it only legal to run an internal electronic solenoid shifted valve body in a car that came with an internal electronic solenoid shifted valve body?


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