Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!
 

You would have to get Ford to present it to the NHRA I believe or maybe you can ask them nicely to add it

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Claim it as a '94 and you're set.
Factored @ 170 hp.
Strangely enough, I was looking at this exact combo out today.
Valve sizes are close to the 5.0.
Cam lift is fairly close as well.
However, it's limited to a 50 mm throttle body.

It's natural class is Q/SA...13.80 index.

I can't help but believe this combo might be tough to make competitive.

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Ya know, Bender, Billy's gonna getcha for that. Better keep your service revolver strapped to your hip!!!! But, at least it's a Chebby. He hollers at me for getting him hooked up with Pontiacs!

Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!
 

Don your right on this one Lol.

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Hey, Dennis, is it true....there may be a Pontiac in your future?

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Yep its true Don.

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Now the big question, Dennis. Is the "World's Ugliest Stocker" getting a paint job?

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I don't know Don what do you think Lol.

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NEVER------certain standards must be maintained!!!

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Hey Mopar guys! Dare to be different! With the new reduction to the 69/318/230/172, how about a Charger for U/SA?

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Does this qualify? 92 Firebird with a V6?

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I have tried a 1985 SVO Mustang for my son to drive in J/K or L stick... I should start it this weekend with the megasquirt on it.. I had it started already with all the stock computer and it didn't run great.. Thought it would be a dime rocket but think it will be more. We will have more info in the next few weeks.. I wanted to run a couple of points races this year but I dont know yet.. Lets see if it will run the index first. It is a low budget car but has some nice parts on it..
scott

PS ... I probably should have built the 83 84 gt turbo mustang or the 80 2.3 blow through car or even the tbird tc.. all would have been cheaper..

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Just to stir up some conversation.. . .
Top 16 Qualifying from Mission:
1 6752 DF/S Shawn Kvaas, Pitt Meadows BC, '88 Chrysler14.492 15.60 -1.108
2 6273 K/SA Angela Bushmaker, Auburn WA, '65 Valiant 11.702 12.65 -0.948
3 6241 C/SA Casey Plaizier, Edmonton AB, '96 Firebird 10.480 11.40 -0.920
4 610 K/SA Pete Kost, Seattle WA, '77 Cutlass 11.731 12.65 -0.919
5 68 V/SA Jim Mantle, Black Creek BC, '77 Pacer 14.602 15.50 -0.898
6 6842 B/SA Dan Cyr, Portland OR, '69 Camaro 10.355 11.25 -0.895
7 1 E/SA Brad Burton, Kirkland WA, '72 Formula 10.823 11.70 -0.877
8 65 A/SA Mick Alley, Eagle ID, '69 Camaro 10.135 11.00 -0.865
9 6227 Q/SA Bruce Flodin, Abbotsford BC, '95 Dakota 12.950 13.80 -0.850
10 6340 G/SA Jim Storms, Renton WA, '72 Barracuda 11.152 12.00 -0.848
11 626 H/SA Dave Barcelon, Bremerton WA, '69 Camaro 11.314 12.15 -0.836
12 6001 O/SA Norm LaPointe, Sherwood Park AB, '68 Mali 12.366 13.15 -0.784
13 6005 Q/S Thomas Baumeister, Surrey BC, '70 Challen 12.876 13.65 -0.774
14 6643 L/SA Glenn Rogers, Pitt Meadows BC, '77 Firebi 11.928 12.70 -0.772
15 6305 I/SA Todd Gale, West Richland WA, '70 Camaro 11.565 12.30 -0.735
16 6383 G/SA Will Kelly, Walla Walla WA, '70 Barracuda 11.273 12.00 -0.727

I see 5 potential "rockets" there. That 318 2bbl at -0.775 is impressive and probably more encouraging than most gave it credit when the topic was first discussed.

Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!
 

And how about Gary Summers 78 Mustang 2V 302! Talk about encouraging!

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From Lebanon Valley:

1301 Q/SA Sam Capizzi Jr., Rochester NY, '73 Dart 13.513 13.80 -0.287

318 - 2V

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I can only imagine how thrilling it would be to be paired with one of those while driving an SS car at a combo race. LOL

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Ed, you should stage and put it in park in case you fall asleep waiting on your tree to come down. Safety first.

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Ed we have a U/SA ford escort that runs with us at the SSSSA combo's. I have had to run him numerous times on the 1/4 and 1/8 mile. The wait is crazy long at the start and you have to lift about 4 car lengths before you get to their bumper. I have a pretty good win loss ratio on him. He is tough though. There are 2 or three other U/SA car that run with us regularly.

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it is if you understand whats happening (from the stands).
myself, i love t!

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Hutt1,

HP rating on SVO is way high (probably for marketing reasons) and probably not workable. Turbo Coupe and Mustang are much better choices.

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It is my first post on the forum,so be easy on me :).I have been following the Dime Rocket thread sense the first post.My ? is would the 78 Camaro with a 250 be a good dime rocket.If I have done my math right it would be a V/SA car.

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Personally, I think that it would be about the worst combo that you could do in a 78 Camaro and I've raced inline 6 cylinder Chevys for an awfully long time. You can do a 2V 305 combo, which is a pretty darned good deal. You could make the car an 80 and do a 229 combo or make it an 81 and do a 267. These are all head and shoulders better than the 250.

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Billy I respect what you have to say large part of why I asked the ? . Only reason I asked about this combo was I had a complete 78 Camaro with a 250 .I had given some thought about the 267 combo and running it as a U/SA but have had trouble finding the motor to build this combo

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78 Camaro type LT makes U/SA with 305 2V!

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Thanks Billy I had the 78 LT as a T/SA .I can find a ton of 305 cores around here from the late 70's

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I was looking in the guide and found a 1978 pinto wagon with the 2.8 V6 2bbl. it is rated at 120hp, factory weight of 2645# and is on a 22.04 weight break (V-stock). Has anyone ever ran one of these? I think it was rated about 6 hp more than the 2300, but has .5 less compression, and smaller valves and cam. Does this engine have any potential? Don Jackson

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Might not love it if you were sitting in the SS car, estimating when to get on the 2 step. Did that when running crew cab doolies at local no-box et brackets before I changed to SS. That's why I won't run combo races. Saying to myself one thousand one, two thousand one, three thousand one...... LOL

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Where would you even find one? Yac has probably looked at it!

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Grab the old book "V6 Performance" from Pat Ganahl, there is some cool info in there. As for the car, I can find them relatively easily in Montana, they were my nemesis in my compact demolition derby days...guys around here hoard the wagons.

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I just had to look that one up! That was the one that had a regular Motorcraft carb adapted to the intake and looked like it was wider than the motor. As I recall, they had nice looking heads and the solid cam is a plus but were real light on torque. I would want to see how big the carb is because Motorcraft made some really small 2V carbs.

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Billy, I done a little digging and it looks like the stick has the 2150 motorcraft and the auto has the variable ventura 2700. Cant find a ventura size anywhere. Did find a CFM chart
.98=190cfm, 1.01=240cfm, 1.02=245cfm, 1.08=287cfm, 1.14=300cfm, 1.21=351cfm, 1.21=351cfm, 1.23=356cfm, 1.33=424cfm, for the 2100 and 2150 carbs. I am ASSumimg the variable ventura is only one size, can't find much on it other than it came on engines from 171ci to 351ci. it might be pretty big if the engine will pull enough to open the vents fully. Don Jackson

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I think Yac had one at the USCN race and asked me what I thought of it. I told him I thought it looked like a cylinder head.

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Actually ,Dwight, that was a 3.8 (a whole 'nother story)

I never paid much attention to the 60 deg. V6..but knowing what we know now, it might be worth a second look.
Near as I can tell ,it's a 2150 with a 1.08 venturi...Same as the 77 302!
A little more cam lift, and about the same compression..
The short stroke hurts the low end torque ,but it should rev pretty high with that carb on a small c.i. engine.
Cam cores might be a problem.
It seems that there WAS a C4 offered with the Taunus bell housing pattern, which you'll need...(not a C3)
There are some minor differences in the various years. I haven't looked that close
Your job!
I see it as an easy .5 under deal, if you can find .030 over OEM pistons.
More than that, if you want to invest in a 7" converter.

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Heres a tip on the clever engine design. Lifters must go in before heads go on or they wont go in at all. Yes, Im serious ! A lot of people learned that one the hard way

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Okay, you want a 77, 78...10 less hp with less compression. Not enough to worry about ,with 220 less pounds less weight though.
You don't need a Pinto wagon though..In fact, you don't even need a Pinto.
Mustang II is the way to go. If all else fails, go with a 302.
*Actually, you can use a Fox body 79 too..Still with 2150 1.08 carb

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I think that the FOX Mustang would be the way to go from a parts standpoint. It would need some work on the Blueprint Specs though. 79 shows 2 171s in the class Guide, one at 100/130 HP and one at 109/120 HP and both autos. The Blueprints show only the 100/130 HP motor and it lists carbs for both auto and stick!
BTW, I can remember seeing Rockwells car at Island leaving on the bumper and breaking axles! talk about Stockers needing wheelie bars!

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Dime Rocket Alert! http://www.classracer.com/classforum...ad.php?t=48226
I don't know Tom or Sean but I have seen the car around and think that this puppy could be faster than stink. AND it can fit 5 different classes with an intake change.

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http://classracer.com/classforum/att...1&d=1358215284 http://classracer.com/classforum/att...1&d=1358215284 http://classracer.com/classforum/att...1&d=1358215284
The three cars here are still good "Dime Rockets"