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Frank Castros 10-08-2014 07:31 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
It was originally a Dodge and BMW dealer on Mason Street in Greenwich and eventually became exclusively a BMW dealership on West Putnam Avenue.




Quote:
Originally Posted by mopar68 (Post 449060)
Daryl,

On the quarter panel of Charlie's Challenger it reads:

Competition & Sports Cars Ltd
Greenwich, Conn.

http://111.imagebam.com/download/X7-...challenger.jpg

I did a Google search and came up with the following address:

Name:Competition & Sports Cars Ltd
Address:355 W Putnam Ave
City:Greenwich
Zip:6830
State:CT
Phone:(203) 661-1725
Fax:(203) 869-2707

Maybe someone there knows something. It's worth a shot.

Pete

Paul Ceasrine 10-09-2014 08:37 AM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
1970

At the start of the year, Charlie ran the 1968 LO23 Hemi Dart in SS/AA.

By April, he was running his 'new' 1970 Challenger '426 Hemi' in SS/DA.

Charlie also did run the 1968 LO23 Hemi Dart in SS/AA, but at the
end of the year he did enter the Dart in Pro/Stock for a few go's before closing out the 1970 season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1971

Charlie was back campaigning the 1970 Challenger in SS/DA.

He also ran the 1968 LO23 Hemi Dart in A/MP.

They also installed a 'Clutch-Flite' in the Dart, but quickly abandoned that idea.

By May 1971, the car was raced with a 'For Sale' sign in the rear
side windows.

Charlie was 'under-the-gun' by the Factory {Regional Office} to run a
Pro/Stock car for 1971.

hemid68 10-09-2014 10:17 AM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
I guess I didn't know as much as I thought about the Hahnenkamp and Tite Dart-imagine that! Bret has forgot more about drag racing in the St. Louis area than I ever knew, and evidently Paul knows something about this Dart. I do know that when I looked at it, during my college years (and NO I wasn't under the influence of anything-it's just old age now!), it came with hemi parts (like maybe a short block), and when Schneider and England ran it, as the Music Room (Rich Hahnenkamp's dance hall) car, it did have a Hemi in it, and then it went to Dale Baker.
Bret, if you have a picture of the Music Room car, or anybody else, it would be kind of neat to see it on here. I know they ran a lot at I-55 in Pevely, MO.
Sorry for any mistaken memories of a teenager.
Dan

hemiman4262003 10-09-2014 01:23 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
is this what you was looking for hemid68

Liteweight 10-09-2014 03:22 PM
Re: KUDO's to all
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mopar68 (Post 449057)
Perhaps Charlie Licata was not aware of Charlie Castaldo's third Hemi Dart? Jimi Vignona certainly remembers seeing his name on the doors of the Dart (that you own) when his dad owned it. Residing in New York and all, it is a very good possibility that C.C. purchased the Manhattan Speed Parts Dart, had it repainted and lettered, with little or no track use. That would explain Jimi's explanation. But that would also mean his crew member(s) would be involved with the project.* Or were they? One thing however, that I am convinced of is, your car is the former Manhattan Speed Parts Dart based upon the unique dent and repair work.

Very puzzling. This is a case for Sherlock Holmes. :)

Pete

*Daryl, you contact all of Charlie Castaldo's former crew? Or just Charlie Licata?
Pete

Contacted both Charlie Licata & Tony DeVito. Haven't found Rick Rickman yet. Same story on both. Castaldo only had 2 Darts that he campaigned.

now, is there a possibility of Castaldo purchasing another Dart & just warehousing it, definately, but I just don't know who else I can talk to about this. I'm currently trying to get Eugene Coards contact info (One of The Mutt Brothers )

I've gone back into the archives of this thread several times, trying to locate something. There are a couple faithfulls from waaaaay back that are still contributing today.
Paul Ceasrine & M68(Pete) come up on a regular basis. Thanx guys for hanging in there with me. There's also been MANY MANY others that have come & gone, then come back for an occassional visit. There's some pretty neat AND famous guys that have been here. Thanx to all of you!!!!! All have made this thread what it is today.

Now, alls we need to do is put a period on this deal. It'll make my sleeps alot better.

liteweight

Liteweight 10-09-2014 03:26 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hemiman4262003 (Post 449149)
is this what you was looking for hemid68
Those cylinder heads look Blue Oval blue...ie S&M stock

liteweight

ps funny how a car like this one can be traced in a few posts, but mine............................................?? ????? :(

beekool 10-09-2014 06:15 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
daryl,, how about the track officials?, the competition , chevies etc.. that raced in that class? there's a guy who has a collection of old Dover pics, and i went threw everything Zilch. someone has to have a collection of National Speedway pics. or whatever track it raced at.

hemid68 10-09-2014 09:38 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Hemiman4262003 - I had forgot about it looking like that. I was thinking of after they had the quarters worked on, and I believe it was white. Thanks for posting the picture.
Dan

James L Miller 10-10-2014 12:31 AM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
I think Hemi Fred has a way to contact Eugene Coard. I haven't heard much from Fred lately. He has some Hemi parts on Moparts for sale the last couple of months or year.

Paul Ceasrine 10-10-2014 06:03 AM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
'Originally', delivered/shipped Northeast LO23 Hemi Darts

New York
* Charlie Castaldo .................................................. .........4-Speed ..........{Scarsdale}
* S & K Speed Parts {Ernie Krieg and Brian Higgins} .....4-Speed ........{Lindenhurst,, Long Island}
* Speedwin Automotive {Joe Jill} ....................................Automatic ..... {Happauge, Long Island}
* Charlie Lendrum .................................................. ....... Automatic ......{Westerlo}
* Chuck McJury .................................................. .......... 4-Speed ........{Schenectady}
* Dick Oldfield .................................................. ............ Automatic .....{Kenmore}
* Pete ****** (Manhattan Speed Parts} ....................... 4-Speed .......{Manhattan}

Connecticut
* Bill Flynn .................................................. ................. 4-Speed......{New Haven}

Massachusetts
* Chick Brignolo .................................................. ....... Automatic ...... {Norton}
* Gene O'Neill .................................................. .......... 4-Speed .........{Worcester}
* Bob Ramstrom .................................................. ...... 4-Speed ......... {Worcester}
* Joseph Petrelle .................................................. ..... Automatic .......{Springfield}

That's All Folks

Charlie A 10-10-2014 08:46 AM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
http://classracer.com/classforum/att...4&d=1412875394

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...5&d=1412875394

Charlie A 10-14-2014 05:07 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Found this in the "Best truck/motorhome/trailer" topic in the Stock/Super Stock forum.

Thought it really needed to be here as well .

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...5&d=1282614770

Liteweight 10-17-2014 09:07 AM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 449223)
'Originally', delivered/shipped Northeast LO23 Hemi Darts

New York
* Charlie Castaldo .................................................. .........4-Speed ..........{Scarsdale}
* S & K Speed Parts {Ernie Krieg and Brian Higgins} .....4-Speed ........{Lindenhurst,, Long Island}
* Speedwin Automotive {Joe Jill} ....................................Automatic ..... {Happauge, Long Island}
* Charlie Lendrum .................................................. ....... Automatic ......{Westerlo}
* Chuck McJury .................................................. .......... 4-Speed ........{Schenectady}
* Dick Oldfield .................................................. ............ Automatic .....{Kenmore}
* Pete ****** (Manhattan Speed Parts} ....................... 4-Speed .......{Manhattan}

Connecticut
* Bill Flynn .................................................. ................. 4-Speed......{New Haven}

Massachusetts
* Chick Brignolo .................................................. ....... Automatic ...... {Norton}
* Gene O'Neill .................................................. .......... 4-Speed .........{Worcester}
* Bob Ramstrom .................................................. ...... 4-Speed ......... {Worcester}
* Joseph Petrelle .................................................. ..... Automatic .......{Springfield}

That's All Folks
Thankyou for that Paul

On your list you have a name attached to The Mannhattan Speed Dart---- "Pete ***** ".
First time I've seen a name associated with it. Got some questions. The *******, means you don't know or remember his last name, or?????? Can you clarify for me please?
Secondly, you have this car listed as a 4 spd. Now you have me totally confused----AGAIN.

Back onto the Merry-Go-Round from Hell for me I go!!!!!.

Not done yet. Got more questions. Some have probably been answered already,but, the brains storage capacity is full & overwelmed. Or, maybe it's just an excuse for the over 55 thing. Anyway-------
Where are these cars today & are they accounted for:
1) Charlie Lendrum
2) Chick Brignolo
3) Joseph Patrelle ( This one I'm pretty sure hasn't surfaced yet)

ANY & ALL responses from the faithfull followers here would be greatly appreciated!!!!!

Thankyou
Daryl

A Facebook find
any info on this one?

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...psa91f210d.jpg
Daryl

hemitime 10-17-2014 12:22 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 449989)
Thankyou for that Paul

On your list you have a name attached to The Mannhattan Speed Dart---- "Pete ***** ".
First time I've seen a name associated with it. Got some questions. The *******, means you don't know or remember his last name, or?????? Can you clarify for me please?
Secondly, you have this car listed as a 4 spd. Now you have me totally confused----AGAIN.

Back onto the Merry-Go-Round from Hell for me I go!!!!!.

Not done yet. Got more questions. Some have probably been answered already,but, the brains storage capacity is full & overwelmed. Or, maybe it's just an excuse for the over 55 thing. Anyway-------
Where are these cars today & are they accounted for:
1) Charlie Lendrum
2) Chick Brignolo
3) Joseph Patrelle ( This one I'm pretty sure hasn't surfaced yet)

ANY & ALL responses from the faithfull followers here would be greatly appreciated!!!!!

Thankyou
Daryl

A Facebook find
any info on this one?

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...psa91f210d.jpg
Daryl
The Harry Prososki dart is a factory lo23 ,told its the former car known as "spider" pictured in the old direct connection catalog. Now black yellow and white checker car formerly owned by Jim Pancake . As for Chick Brignolo am told he still has his car ,maybe someone on here can confirm. Noticed the Manhatten speed parts dart listed as a four speed car on the list as well ? Is that a typo?

Charlie A 10-17-2014 12:24 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Post#581 for more info on Prososki Dart.

austin49 10-17-2014 12:48 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Chic, I believe , just passed away recently.

Charlie A 10-17-2014 02:15 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Understanding this is the Prososki Dart:

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...0BO/July06.jpg

jerry witzel 10-21-2014 08:21 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 449223)
'Originally', delivered/shipped Northeast LO23 Hemi Darts

New York
* Charlie Castaldo .................................................. .........4-Speed ..........{Scarsdale}
* S & K Speed Parts {Ernie Krieg and Brian Higgins} .....4-Speed ........{Lindenhurst,, Long Island}
* Speedwin Automotive {Joe Jill} ....................................Automatic ..... {Happauge, Long Island}
* Charlie Lendrum .................................................. ....... Automatic ......{Westerlo}
* Chuck McJury .................................................. .......... 4-Speed ........{Schenectady}
* Dick Oldfield .................................................. ............ Automatic .....{Kenmore}
* Pete ****** (Manhattan Speed Parts} ....................... 4-Speed .......{Manhattan}

Connecticut
* Bill Flynn .................................................. ................. 4-Speed......{New Haven}

Massachusetts
* Chick Brignolo .................................................. ....... Automatic ...... {Norton}
* Gene O'Neill .................................................. .......... 4-Speed .........{Worcester}
* Bob Ramstrom .................................................. ...... 4-Speed ......... {Worcester}
* Joseph Petrelle .................................................. ..... Automatic .......{Springfield}

That's All Folks
The Bob Ramstrom Dart is listed as a 4-speed but in this pic it says SS/BA on the window.

Paul Ceasrine 10-21-2014 09:17 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Jerry,

You are correct. My error.

I have Bob Ramstrom {Natick Dodge} as a SS/BA car on my 'original list'.

I posted the Northeast list by memory............:(

Paul

Liteweight 10-22-2014 08:40 AM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 450445)
Jerry,

You are correct. My error.

I have Bob Ramstrom {Natick Dodge} as a SS/BA car on my 'original list'.

I posted the Northeast list by memory............:(

Paul
Back to the NED list. Whats' about the Mannhattan Speed Dart ?? Where is the 4 spd. info comming from. What about the name "Pete"...,... ????

Com'on Paul (also known as the Dodge Detective) ..... out with it......... Yur killin' me here

liteweight

Paul Ceasrine 10-22-2014 04:01 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Helpful Hints

1968 NHRA Division Points Meets

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...qClerZvfDAzKCl

Northeast Division

May 6-8 ............... Raceway Park, Englishtown, New Jersey
May 25 ................ Capitol Raceway, Millerville, Maryland
June 29 ............... Cecil County Drag-O-Way, Baltimore, Maryland
July 13 ................. Island Dragway, Great Meadows, New Jersey
August 10 ............ York US 30 Drag-O-Way, York, Pennyslvania
September 14-15 . Connecticut Dragway, East Haddam, Connecticut

Liteweight 10-22-2014 04:10 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 450525)
Helpful Hints

1968 NHRA Division Points Meets

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...qClerZvfDAzKCl
Nope, not doing it. Can't read it either

liteweight

Paul Ceasrine 10-23-2014 04:41 AM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 450525)
Helpful Hints

1968 NHRA Division Points Meets

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...qClerZvfDAzKCl

Northeast Division

May 6-8 ............... Raceway Park, Englishtown, New Jersey
May 25 ................ Capitol Raceway, Millerville, Maryland
June 29 ............... Cecil County Drag-O-Way, Baltimore, Maryland
July 13 ................. Island Dragway, Great Meadows, New Jersey
August 10 ............ York US 30 Drag-O-Way, York, Pennyslvania
September 14-15 . Connecticut Dragway, East Haddam, CT
Helpful Hints

Paul Ceasrine 10-23-2014 02:06 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
A clean machine.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...0ETmuSrppMKa6C

Charlie A 10-28-2014 08:11 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Everyone here knows this is my favorite LO23.
C'mon Daryl, put some torque thrust wheels on your's !!!!!!

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...g?t=1230728498

Just LOOK at how cool it is. :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:

Liteweight 10-29-2014 11:20 AM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
I'll put on any wheel/tire combo requestor/s will buy me ;) ;) ;)

liteweight

Charlie A 10-29-2014 11:49 AM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 451236)
I'll put on any wheel/tire combo requestor/s will buy me ;) ;) ;)

liteweight
Why did I know to expect that answer??? :rolleyes:

Liteweight 10-29-2014 12:34 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
This car has had alot of different wheels on it over the years, but never Torque Thrusts. I agree C they would look great on this car!!!!
The installed list includes Cragar Super Tricks, Weld Super Lites, Factory Steelies painted black, Weld Pro Stars, Cragar SS with spinners & currently original early 70's Keystone Classics. I might throw the factory steelies on it next year.

liteweight

HEMIDARTDAVE 11-04-2014 08:51 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
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I'm getting closer to converting "MISTER ED" back to it's original 4 speed configuration...I have the bell housing, transmission, new flywheel, clutch and pp. just working on a shifter now...

jerry witzel 11-04-2014 10:19 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 450678)
Saw this on facebook, converted to Pro Stock.

Charlie A 11-04-2014 10:23 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HEMIDARTDAVE (Post 452018)
I'm getting closer to converting "MISTER ED" back to it's original 4 speed configuration...I have the bell housing, transmission, new flywheel, clutch and pp. just working on a shifter now...
Has to be a great feeling ... being able to save one of these.
I cannot imagine the expense, time, labor and research that goes into this.
Thank all of you that put forth the effort to do so. :cool:

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...9&d=1415148644

HEMIDARTDAVE 11-05-2014 08:57 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
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I'm looking for a shifter with reverse lock out for my Dart. Any leads?

Charlie A 11-06-2014 12:06 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HEMIDARTDAVE (Post 452122)
I'm looking for a shifter with reverse lock out for my Dart. Any leads?
Click the resize bar for a closer look.

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...3&d=1415235403

Liteweight 11-06-2014 12:20 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HEMIDARTDAVE (Post 452018)
I'm getting closer to converting "MISTER ED" back to it's original 4 speed configuration...I have the bell housing, transmission, new flywheel, clutch and pp. just working on a shifter now...
Good to hear Dave. did that lead I gave you work out on the trans. stuff ?

liteweight

Terry Witzel 11-06-2014 10:29 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
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From Texas:

Charlie A 11-07-2014 09:21 AM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Witzel (Post 452207)
From Texas:

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...8&d=1415327380

HEMIDARTDAVE 11-07-2014 11:26 AM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 452155)
Good to hear Dave. did that lead I gave you work out on the trans. stuff ?

liteweight
Actually, I got the bell from Jamie Passon, and the trans from a private individual, but I still appreciate your leads.

Charlie A 11-12-2014 06:20 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
In the beginning......

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...Number=6950574

Liteweight 11-13-2014 11:09 AM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 452691)
Ahhhhh, yes, This is where most my headaches originate from :)

liteweight

Paul Ceasrine 11-19-2014 04:43 PM
Re: Original hemi dart information
 
February 1969

Miami Speedway Park ~ Hollywood, Florida

NHRA Winter Championshipships

I 'now' have the Super Stock list and results.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...OeyWYG6UHDCpng

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...e2U5usd2a96xgc


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