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Andys dad 03-25-2010 09:33 PM

Re: Hope I do not regret this post and I hope it is taken as just an honest question.
 
Drooze look forward to meeting you at Vegas

Looking for a stolen and strippeed Challenger right now

Bob Lambeck was the "man" when it came to 340s and 360s in the past

Been a friend of his for many many years

I am sure he will find more power than necessary in the new 360

Here I come....

NewHemi 03-26-2010 08:45 PM

Re: Hope I do not regret this post and I hope it is taken as just an honest question.
 
Andy's Dad.... Are you sure that running any new challenger with an underrated engine combo would be fair to the others?????

Just asking....


David
The New Hemi Guy
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MARY JANE

Ed Wright 03-27-2010 08:35 AM

Re: Hope I do not regret this post and I hope it is taken as just an honest question.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 177204)
Why not make it .75 under then take class winners ONLY to race the eliminator. Problem solved in less than a month ! If the HP to shipping wt ratio puts any combo at less than 7.00 lbs per HP then they race Super Stock only. Another problem solved.

I agree with class winners only, but .75 under? Ouch!

Stewart Way 03-27-2010 10:25 AM

Re: Hope I do not regret this post and I hope it is taken as just an honest question.
 
In defense of the DP owners (not that they need my help) if you look at when they had to order the cars vs when the HP numbers were released by NHRA you will see that the specs were released 3/20/09 while the cars were bought in 08 with the first delivered in 1/09. So these guys decided to run these cars before they knew for sure the HP ratings or class. Don't know the chronology on the Mustangs.
So I guess maybe they are a little less unethical and immoral than me. I had decided to run the 70 383 in SSGT until I saw the HP on the 5.7.

Ed Fernandez 03-27-2010 12:22 PM

Re: Hope I do not regret this post and I hope it is taken as just an honest question.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NewHemi (Post 177707)
Andy's Dad.... Are you sure that running any new challenger with an underrated engine combo would be fair to the others?????

Just asking....


David
The New Hemi Guy

Good question........................

hemidup 03-27-2010 01:03 PM

Re: Hope I do not regret this post and I hope it is taken as just an honest question.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewart Way (Post 177792)
In defense of the DP owners (not that they need my help) if you look at when they had to order the cars vs when the HP numbers were released by NHRA you will see that the specs were released 3/20/09 while the cars were bought in 08 with the first delivered in 1/09. So these guys decided to run these cars before they knew for sure the HP ratings or class. Don't know the chronology on the Mustangs.
So I guess maybe they are a little less unethical and immoral than me. I had decided to run the 70 383 in SSGT until I saw the HP on the 5.7.

When we ordered the DP in 08, we had no clue as to the HP numbers or what class the car would be competitive in. Heck, we didn't even know we were approved for one until mid summer of 09. All we knew at the time when it was ordered was that we could choose between a 5.9, 5.7 or a 6.1. Knowing far in advance what the 6.1 would be capable of, we optioned for the 5.7. It wasn't until the car was at the shop that we even seen the 5.7 was rated at 305 HP. ????

As being part of a DP team, do I personally feel the car should have been born a Super Stocker? Part of me says yes, the other part says no. Yes, because I feel the same as other's that in order to be considered a true stocker, it should have a VIN and had been driven off the lot. No, because the car was approved for Stock class.

Either way we're just happy to own one and after a month debating whether to build a stock or super stocker, we decided to build a stocker. We're just playing the hand that was dealt to us.

Chris "drooze" Wertman 03-27-2010 01:52 PM

Re: Hope I do not regret this post and I hope it is taken as just an honest question.
 
Very well said Jerry, I for nearly a year made other plans for this season, I quite frankly NEVER thought it would actually happen, the Old Man had "faith" ... I did not.

The cars arent even close to the original "spec" as we have all seen, the list of this and that change 100% over the course of 2 years. NONE of that mattered to the Old Man, he wanted one....it wouldnt have mattered if it was a Comp car to him, it wouldnt have mattered if it had to run in PSM and had no chance....

The HP Ratings were a LATE development in the course of the DP and its not like we ((and I mean ALL dp teams) havent had their share of spec and legality issues, pistons, etc....

BUT It is what it is.....I would have done a TFFC , yes really.....BUT I am happy and PROUD to be able to do this with my father, I cannot express how much. A lifetime dream realized, WE did it OURSELVES....and well well land where we do, that is no matter.

The funny thing is all the people who complain , bitch, are angry whatever dont realize that probably NONE of the DP teams even CARE what class or rating we have or where we have to run, the "Drag Pak" iteself is the prize........

I can say I know 2 owners who were original Max wedge and AFX guys, THEY dont even care...and they will run their cars tounge hanging out. For them its 63-68 all over again. For me to be a part of history is more than enough,

Tommorow if the car was banned and was relegated to a Bracket bomber would I be happy, no, would it change what we do and why we do it , not in the least.........


Quote:

Originally Posted by hemidup (Post 177830)
When we ordered the DP in 08, we had no clue as to the HP numbers or what class the car would be competitive in. Heck, we didn't even know we were approved for one until mid summer of 09. All we knew at the time when it was ordered was that we could choose between a 5.9, 5.7 or a 6.1. Knowing far in advance what the 6.1 would be capable of, we optioned for the 5.7. It wasn't until the car was at the shop that we even seen the 5.7 was rated at 305 HP. ????

As being part of a DP team, do I personally feel the car should have been born a Super Stocker? Part of me says yes, the other part says no. Yes, because I feel the same as other's that in order to be considered a true stocker, it should have a VIN and had been driven off the lot. No, because the car was approved for Stock class.

Either way we're just happy to own one and after a month debating whether to build a stock or super stocker, we decided to build a stocker. We're just playing the hand that was dealt to us.



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