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Ok, so I may not have worded it quite right. But it would not have been a good business move by Chrysler to make them "affordable to everyone". They appear to have planned on building the number of cars they felt they could sell without losing money. If I read correctly, Jeffs car is one of 3 ordered with the 5.9. The 6.1's haven't been quite as big an issue because the HP seems to be a little bit closer to what it should be and there are other new Challengers and Mustangs to run against. But if Jeff hadn't ordered that 3rd 5.9, someone else could have and nothing changes! Gaining a competitive edge (preferably) under the rules is in the nature of a racer. Unfortunately, some can afford to pay for this edge and others can't. It will likely get worse when the other Mustang combos come out and will cover many more classes, including "H"! I can understand the frustration of having almost no chance heads-up against a very mis-factored combo. But as it's been pointed out many times, the blame falls on NHRA. Perhaps the manufacturers share some of the blame because it's in their best interest to have their new cars out there! But they are looking at it from a business standpoint. Can you blame them? NHRA has still wandered away from what it was originally designed for. Now it all boils down to money for them. |
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I also wonder if given the assumption that GM had offered the Camaro or Corvette with the SC engine package, and NHRA put the combination in the books, and the CJ's and DP's were not available, if the controversy would be the same? |
Re: Yet another bogu horsepower factor
You've *been* in my house, Myron! *IF* I owned everything I have free and clear, and sold all of it, I *might* be able to get one of those cars. But then I'd need to get a truck & trailer again to get it to the race track. :p
I'll never own a Hemi car either, but I have made a few passes in one. (Thanks Bob!) :cool: I'm easy, though. I'll drive anything. :o |
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"I'm easy, though. I'll drive anything."
Myron has told me that many times about you Beard! Jim |
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...said one front wheel drive racer to another.... LOL (Speaking of which, I got the Turismo out last weekend, and the little snot was *deadly*! Went 4 rounds at Pageland on Saturday before running into an .013 pkg in the other lane. Taking it out again this weekend. Too d*mn much fun!)
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Yeah, you got me! I should talk right? Good for you my friend! Hope you are feeling better. Jim
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Everyone is complaining about the low horsepower factors but other than bashing NHRA no one seems to have a solution to the AHFS which is flawed, so here goes. Instead of giving a certain percentage of horsepower, how about every six months if you trigger the one second under, you automatically move up one full class and your horsepower would be adjusted accordingly. That way no one has to add more weight, and the factors will get evened out faster. Now unless you can run an existing class, your car is factored into Super Stock if you don't make the stock weight break. Also if the class average is less than .5 under the index and no car with the same combo went more than .7 under you would automatically move down one full class and your horsepower would be adjusted accordingly. This would even the factors much faster and get things where they should be. Now let the flaming begin.
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Re: Yet another bogu horsepower factor
what is your idea billy?
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Lynn McCarty has posted the solution to the AHFS problems repeatedly.
NHRA is not going to do it. In fact, the AHFS solution and the changes necessary to make it work quickly were presented to NHRA by some of the SRAC members nearly two years ago. NHRA rejected it out of hand without even considering it. Several long time racers were involved in creating a solution, but NHRA does not care and will not be bothered with it. |
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