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Bobby Fazio 09-02-2015 01:12 PM

Re: Live from the US Nationals INDY
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joseph (Post 480999)
I bought a E/SA Camaro over the winter and understood the factory stock COPO s etc wouldn't screw up the eliminator any longer but looks like I'm wrong. What a crock if you want to spend 150,000.00 and up,or in many cases get it free, for a store bought killer factory stocker ,which by the way has 4 link rear,coil overs and need I go on. Now there are a lot of great stockers at Indy that will sit out eliminations because these cars eat up 30 and more of the 128 spots. Only good news you don't have to run them in class but that's as far as most will go this year. 1.3 under will they get HP or not?

Yes I agree something really needs to be done about these cars as there will only continue to be more of them each year. 62 FS cars went down the track in Q1 with 44 of them already in the field! How can you have 44 qualified cars, so far, that are not subjected to HP correction or even factored into the mineshaft rule? Don't separate them, just bring their indexes a little closer to reality. I like factory cars in stock.

Number 77th qualifier actually is the 43rd qualifier based on mineshaft rule since there are 84 old iron cars currently qualified this requires 43 old cars to be -.85 under. He is -.929 under so the mineshaft rule is in effect.

James Perrone 09-02-2015 01:16 PM

Re: Live from the US Nationals INDY
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joseph (Post 480999)
I bought a E/SA Camaro over the winter and understood the factory stock COPO s etc wouldn't screw up the eliminator any longer but looks like I'm wrong. What a crock if you want to spend 150,000.00 and up,or in many cases get it free, for a store bought killer factory stocker ,which by the way has 4 link rear,coil overs and need I go on. Now there are a lot of great stockers at Indy that will sit out eliminations because these cars eat up 30 and more of the 128 spots. Only good news you don't have to run them in class but that's as far as most will go this year. 1.3 under will they get HP or not?

Dead horse. It's Indy bring your best hope u have enough. Good luck to all. Larry and everyone posting thanks. It's like I'm there. And my phone been ringing all morning with updates. Love Indy

Kevin McKenna 09-02-2015 01:34 PM

Re: Live from the US Nationals INDY
 
Won't take sides in the new car debate but I will add some food for thought.

In 2008 (the last year before ANY new cars showed up) there were 169 Stockers on the final sheet at Indy and the bump was .938-under.

In 2015, there are 177 cars on the sheet after Q1 and the bump is .798-under but I'd anticipate that I will be in the .90-92 under range by the time we're done.

Obvious conclusion: If I want t run Indy, I'd better have a car that can run .92-under or quicker.

Also have to wonder what it was like in the late 1960s when the Super Stock eliminator was a 32 car field (mostly class winners) and there were as many as 200 cars on the entry list. Hard to imagine sending that many drivers home early but then again, we had 4 national events in 1968.

Troy Pourciau 09-02-2015 01:40 PM

Re: Live from the US Nationals INDY
 
Go ahead Larry. 10.17 in B weight. I know you got more

Kevin McKenna 09-02-2015 01:52 PM

Re: Live from the US Nationals INDY
 
Random notes after Super Stock Q1:

160 cars made runs

Bump is Don Bales SS/AH Hemi car at -.557 (8.743)

Only four cars more than a second under (Skillman, Cotten, Leopold Jr. and Twitchell)

21 Hemi Challenge cars (but only 8 of them are currently qualified)

a pair of '68 Barracudas racing as GT cars so obviously not part of the Hemi Challenge (Eric Bell and Eric Bardekoff).

Terry Bride 09-02-2015 02:02 PM

Re: Live from the US Nationals INDY
 
Kevin,
I'm pretty sure that 2008 was prior to the .30 index adjustment. So the .938 would be a .638 in relation to the index. So the field has picked up a tenth.

Bill Bagley 09-02-2015 02:16 PM

Re: Live from the US Nationals INDY
 
PATSY - KEVIN - KEN ... fabulous job of keeping those of us who are elsewhere well informed. I Wouldn't go to the extent of choosing to stay home on account of the on-line 'play-by-play', but its surely a wonderful alternative for both the 'would be' competitor and the racing fan that simply just couldn't make the trip.

You're all truly a valuable resource for the sport we love!

Mike Pearson 09-02-2015 02:29 PM

Re: Live from the US Nationals INDY
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Bagley (Post 481019)
PATSY - KEVIN - KEN ... fabulous job of keeping those of us who are elsewhere well informed. I Wouldn't go to the extent of choosing to stay home on account of the on-line 'play-by-play', but its surely a wonderful alternative for both the 'would be' competitor and the racing fan that simply just couldn't make the trip.

You're all truly a valuable resource for the sport we love!

X10!! this is always the best thread of the year. Lots of people chiming in this year with good info.

Kevin McKenna 09-02-2015 02:33 PM

Re: Live from the US Nationals INDY
 
I think I'd pay good money to watch Chris Holbrook's Cobra Jet and Clay Arnett's COPO run a best-of-three match race. They are currently the gold standard of supercharged Factory Stock racers and I think it would be every bit as exciting (with similar elapsed times) as a Bob Glidden vs. Lee Shepherd match from about 1981.Now, we just need to get someone (Barton? Tueton?) to build a competitive blown Mopar.

Kevin McKenna 09-02-2015 02:39 PM

Re: Live from the US Nationals INDY
 
While I'm flooding this thread with a lot of random thoughts how about this:

The Factory Stock Showdown (FS/XX) winner takes on the Hemi Challenge champ for an "Indy King of the Hill" title. Heads-up, no breakout.

Wolkwitz (8.554) and Holbrook (8.560) current leaders in each class.


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