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Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.

Aren't you guys going to take time out to watch the GAME ...

Being an old guy I am hoping for the Denver defense so the old guy Manning can win but I suspect Carolina will prevail

See some of you at Pomona this coming week

Ron

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Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 494738)

Statistical data on faster cars having the "worst redlight" of a dual-foul situation in eliminations:

At Loose Rocker's Colonial Classic last year, we ran roughly 1,640 pairs of eliminations over the course of the weekend. The number of instances that this rule would have affected were (4) in Top and (5) in Footbrake: 0.5% of elimination runs. In Top ET, every one would've been resolved (true red light/win light displayed) before the cars were past the tree. In Footbrake, every one of the runs would've been resolved before either car made it to the 60'.

American Doorslammer Nationals: 3 / 580 = 0.5%
Fall Footbrake Frenzy: 14 / 884 / 1.5%
The majority of these instances would be resolved before any car got to the tree, and all instances would be resolved before the 60'.

Mike, it looks like you have a lot of data from these events. If this data is available, Could you compare just the races that had less than a .500 handicap? The reason I ask this is any race that has more than a .500 handicap, the faster racer has the opportunity to leave late or never leave, because he can see the Red before the last yellow goes off, so that data is flawed.

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Originally Posted by Bunkster (Post 494859)

Mr. Dedman, you’ve been quite correct all these years on this subject. The abuse you’ve received has been truly surreal. That finally…someone…somewhere is going to see the light…makes you understand how Whittaker Chambers felt when they said he was lying.

For your own peace of mind, know you owe no one an explanation of your position. If anyone asks you to explain why the worst red light is where things ought to be, ignore them. If it has to be explained, they’ll never understand the explanation.

Thanks for those kind words. I don't see a lot of them on these cyber-pages; You and Jim Wahl have been my inspiration for this crusade, but there is one thing I have not, apparently, made clear. This (TruStart) double red light system is in ~no way~ MY idea. I am just not that smart. I raced for years (after 1963, and the 'tree was instituted,) thinking everything was "fine" with no thought of changing anything. It wasn't until a bracket racing friend of mine (about 15 years ago) explained the inequity of giving the second car to leave, a free ride to the next round if the first car red lights, that I began to understand the inequities of what goes on at an NHRA track RE: the red light system. Unequal red light jeopardy...

I have a thick skin (and, some people would say, skull) having spent the last 25 years on BB's with varying degrees of rancor directed at me, so, not to worry... I'm fine...

I am just glad this is finally happening... I don't understand the inertia in getting it implemented "across-the-board," but I can wait a little longer... I've been waiting a long time........
This is a breath of fresh air!

Thanks for your comments!!!! :)

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Originally Posted by Andys dad (Post 494863)

Aren't you guys going to take time out to watch the GAME ...

Being an old guy I am hoping for the Denver defense so the old guy Manning can win.......

Ron

WOOOHOOO! Go Broncos!

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Originally Posted by rognelson777 (Post 494864)

I ran the stats for last year's Spring Fling at Bristol. 15 occurrences over 1178 pairs. (1.27%) Only one of those pairs had a handicap of more than half a second, so the redlight would typically be displayed by the time the slower car made it to the tree. That was a Box class, so both drivers are leaving off of the same bulb at the same time. These stats are consistent with what I found with three other events. As I stated in my previous stats post, the majority of the instances were handicaps of less than .500. Footbrake has a very slightly higher incident rate, and the handicaps are sometimes longer.

You can find stats on events at http://dragstory.com/forum/index.php Select a race, select a day/class, do a Find (Ctrl-f) on "-.", and it will highlight all of the redlights on the page.

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.

Surprised some of you guys arent complaining when a car breaks out by more then another car, yet still loses. By your thought process on redlites the car that breaks out first should be the loser and not who breaks out the most. Yes, I dont have a s/ss number but I race where im the faster car and this new rule would possibly hurt me but I feel it levels the playing field a little.

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This isn't being proposed for Nhra/ihra correct? So why all the debate?

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Originally Posted by deuces wild (Post 494895)

This isn't being proposed for Nhra/ihra correct? So why all the debate?

You are correct.

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As a long time, slow, Bracket racer recently turned to a slow class racer I would applaud the implementation of trustart. http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smile...use-597229.gif http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smile...use-597229.gif

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Originally Posted by Dave Noll (Post 494905)

Of course you would!