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Mickey Whaley 11-17-2016 07:15 AM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
I think worst break out rule should be considered?

Bobby DiDomenico 11-17-2016 09:55 AM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 519974)
Drag racing it takes 2 balls to play!..
This aint golf NO MULIGANS!

Mulligans? Maybe at the Irish Bar in town! (If the first person to tee off shanks their ball the second golfer doesn't get a free hole won, they still have to play it out if there is $$ on the line:-)

Bring many first time and some returning car guys or pure spectators that do not drag race to the events whenever possible. The things I can pretty much guarantee: 1.None of them understand how the first guy to red light looses automatically rather than both having the opportunity. That a 16 second car racing a 9 second can leave .001 early and have lost while the faster car leaves 6 seconds early and still wins. Some even assumed it would work the same then at the finish line, first car to cross and break out would loose, not the worst under the dial. 2.None of them understand throttle stop racing. (The very premise of it, they do understand the mechanics behind it. At Joliet they amused themselves betting which car would roll closer to 660' before full throttle again.) 3.None like Pro oil downs and clean up time or tracks with one "good" lane. Some actually decided not to return again. Had 3 "no thanks" for Joliet alone this year. While the racers may decide this question, the stands are nearly empty during Sportsman racing with the current system.

Mickey Whaley 11-17-2016 10:09 AM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby DiDomenico (Post 520033)
Mulligans? Maybe at the Irish Bar in town! (If the first person to tee off shanks their ball the second golfer doesn't get a free hole won, they still have to play it out if there is $$ on the line:-)

Bring many first time and some returning car guys or pure spectators that do not drag race to the events whenever possible. The things I can pretty much guarantee: 1.None of them understand how the first guy to red light looses automatically rather than both having the opportunity. That a 16 second car racing a 9 second can leave .001 early and have lost while the faster car leaves 6 seconds early and still wins. Some even assumed it would work the same then at the finish line, first car to cross and break out would loose, not the worst under the dial. 2.None of them understand throttle stop racing. (The very premise of it, they do understand the mechanics behind it. At Joliet they amused themselves betting which car would roll closer to 660' before full throttle again.) 3.None like Pro oil downs and clean up time or tracks with one "good" lane. Some actually decided not to return again. Had 3 "no thanks" for Joliet alone this year. While the racers may decide this question, the stands are nearly empty during Sportsman racing with the current system.

Bobby what class do you race and I'm sure james the mad Hawaiian will also reply

Mickey Whaley 11-17-2016 10:16 AM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
I think we just play cards on line to see who wins instead of racing on the track would be better. or everybody show up at the track and flip coins heads or tails this is some stupid ****

novassdude 11-17-2016 10:36 AM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby DiDomenico (Post 520033)
Mulligans? Maybe at the Irish Bar in town! (If the first person to tee off shanks their ball the second golfer doesn't get a free hole won, they still have to play it out if there is $$ on the line:-)

Bring many first time and some returning car guys or pure spectators that do not drag race to the events whenever possible. The things I can pretty much guarantee: 1.None of them understand how the first guy to red light looses automatically rather than both having the opportunity. That a 16 second car racing a 9 second can leave .001 early and have lost while the faster car leaves 6 seconds early and still wins. Some even assumed it would work the same then at the finish line, first car to cross and break out would loose, not the worst under the dial. 2.None of them understand throttle stop racing. (The very premise of it, they do understand the mechanics behind it. At Joliet they amused themselves betting which car would roll closer to 660' before full throttle again.) 3.None like Pro oil downs and clean up time or tracks with one "good" lane. Some actually decided not to return again. Had 3 "no thanks" for Joliet alone this year. While the racers may decide this question, the stands are nearly empty during Sportsman racing with the current system.

So are you saying that if they go to tru-start the stands will suddenly be full when the sportsmen are running?

Mile High 11-17-2016 12:01 PM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by novassdude (Post 520037)
So are you saying that if they go to tru-start the stands will suddenly be full when the sportsmen are running?

I don't believe that is what he is saying. The stands aren't full for the Pros anymore either. It costs too much for the every day spectator.

Why are some of you afraid of TruStart? Just because you don't want change is not a good enough reason, things change all the time even in Stock/Super Stock Eliminator.

Jeff

S/ST J718 11-17-2016 01:59 PM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernie Cunningham (Post 520014)
Please explain, thx, B


Here is the reason for me.... This is just my opinion only, Me being a 10.20 car racing against 7.40 dragsters if and when I go red the dragster has plenty of time to see that I was red and bump down if he felt he was not good. Most bye runs for next round is off reaction time , so the faster car has a chance to tight it up with no worries if he goes red as he has already won this round. With Tru-Start for would not have this chance , plus he would not a have a round win till he went green or less red than me. With a footbrake race I don't see this application being as necessary, no box no bump down.... I know my thought process is not perfect on this ......that's my 2 cents on this.

Bob Mulry 11-17-2016 02:08 PM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
I still can't believe the amount of people that don't get it

Andys dad 11-17-2016 03:03 PM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry (Post 520050)
I still can't believe the amount of people that don't get it

Here is a "new" thought - they should both be out - no almost winner.

Red light and you lose - simple to figure out.

Does not favor fast or slow cars - favors good drivers.


Ron

Bruce Noland 11-17-2016 03:19 PM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
Bob, after ten years away from racing, will you have that bird ready to go next year?


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