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Originally Posted by tommy d (Post 462694)

Whats going on with that last Hemi engine?

The Ballstud Hemi engine that was supposed to be put in production in both 400 and 440 cu. in. displacements in 1972 but cancelled thanks to the "clean air" fanatics (not that I'm opposed to breathing clean air and drinking clean (filtered) water) in Washington, D.C. and their (drastic) emissions reductions requirements for automakers by 1975 ultimatum. You can thank Richard Nixon's administration for creating this EPA monster on December 2, 1970.* To paraphrase Rush Limbaugh from about twenty years ago: "The environmental movement is the new home of marxism/communism/socialism. Ditto.

Pete

* http://www2.epa.gov/aboutepa/origins-epa

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Chuck Neely's SS/EA Hemi Daytona Charger* vs. SS/DA Hemi Challenger.

http://107.imagebam.com/download/cwf...challenger.jpg

Check out Daytona and Challenger behind Dick Brannan's Maverick.

http://108.imagebam.com/download/PKy...ck_brannan.jpg

* I was at Mopars in the Park this past weekend. There was a Sox & Martin reunion event among other things. Buddy Martin was there, he seems pretty well with it, and I spoke with him.

Buddy said that S & M only had 1 Superbird. They got it on the dollar type deal and sold it for whatever they could when they were done with it. Buddy said they did not have anything to do with building the 5 & 50 Superbird. I was curious about this because in the late '70's I went to Ken Jennings shop in Aberdeen Maryland. Ken Jennings told me at the time that the Superbird he had (5 & 50 car) was built down south. Ken also told me in the late '70's that he had been told that Chrysler had 2 drag race Superbirds built down south in 1970.

I also spoke with Dave Christie on Saturday. He also said that Sox & Martin did not build the 5 & 50 Superbird, and he had no idea who built it. Dave Christie said the S & M Superbird was very hard on drivetrain parts. Dave named about 6 races that he said their Superbird was at. Dave said the car ran SS/EA with a street hemi and C/MP with a race hemi (12 1/2-1 pistons). Dave said the car did not break in competition but when it got back to the shop you could break the gears off the ring and pinion with a small hammer blow. Buddy said that he had heard the Superbird had been converted to a regular Roadrunner after they sold it and that he had no idea where it was. Buddy also said that Bill Neeley and publicity people wrote the Sox & Martin Book of Drag Racing. Buddy said he did not write it. Dave said Bill and Chuck Neeley were not related.

Buddy said that Chrysler would have paid them if they raced their Superbird at Bonneville (note here there was an interview in 1970 where Buddy or Ronnie, I'd have to look up who, mentioned bringing the car to Bonneville) but they just didn't have time

Both Dave and Buddy said they did work on Chuck Neeley's Daytona, chasis and engine. Dave said there were 2 buildings at the S & M facility. 1 was for customers engines. Dave and another guy ( didn't get his name) who worked at the S & M shop both said customers engines were assembled there. But that Jake had his own shop in the main building. There was a panel presentation where Jake's engine building was discussed. Buddy said cars did not sit outside at their shop. Both Buddy and Dave said Chuck Neeley's Daytona was a customer car.

There was a whole row of original S & M cars at the show. I felt under the rear quarter panels at the tire openings. (I know don't touch!) The S & M cars seemed to have a distinct and particular way of folding the metal lip over (one of the 1967 cars did not have the quarters rolled under) so the slicks wouldn't be caught by the metal. One of the things I remember about the 5 & 50 Superbird was how the rear quarter opening was rolled over. It seemed to me different than the cars that I saw this weekend.

I mentioned to Dave Christie about what I have read about the 5 & 50 car having the weight moved around. Dave said they didn't do that on the Superbird, the back of the car weighed enough already. Then Dave and the other guy said that, yes they moved the wheelbase 2 " forward in back. ;)

http://107.imagebam.com/download/m3C..._daytona_2.jpg

http://108.imagebam.com/download/N-o..._daytona_3.jpg

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/in...11034.40;imode

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Chryslers At Carlisle
Carlisle, Pennsylvania
July 12, 2014

Previous page of this thread has a photo of this car from "back in the day".

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This thread needs a wake-up call.

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Shirley Shahan ~ 'Drag-On-Lady'

1967 Dodge Coronet 'Model 440' WO23 '426 Hemi'.

Classed in SS/BA in 1967.

While the 1967 'WO23' was 'not'' a big winner at the Super Stock Eliminator
Events and Major Meets, Shirley made the { $$$ } in the Match-Race Circuit
during her 1967 campaign tour of the Drag Strips throughout the United States.

Also, she was a 'paid'' employee of the Chrysler Racing Program, to go out
and 'promote' Chrysler Products at appearances at Dodge Dealerships and
Drag Strips.

Tour

The year would start out in Southern California with trips to both Arizona and
Las Vegas for the early-year big events.

Then campaign in California during March and April.

Also, Shirley would be involved in the 'Mobil Economy Run' that was held in
early April. An 'endurance race' from Los Angeles to Detroit over a 6-Day
period.

They usually stayed on the West-Coast until early-May, then headed out to
the North-Central area {Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan and Illinois} for
the month of May.

From there, it was to Tennessee for the NHRA and AHRA Springnationals
in the month of June, and touring of Indiana, Ohio, Kentucky, and Pennsylvania
as well.

Eventually moving up to the Northeast {New York, Ontario -Canada, and
New England area} for July.

Then the 'Southeastern Swing' for August, before heading back up North to
Indy for the 'Nationals' on Labor Day Weekend.

Then the 'Mid-West Run' in September, before stopping off in Colorado for
a Mountain-area visit.

The a 'quick-shot' up to Washington State.

Then heading back to down to California in early-October for a short rest.

And then one more swing into the Southwest {Oklahoma, Nebraska and Texas}
in October.

Usually '3' Events per week, coupled with weekly appearances at Dealerships
for a 'meet-and-greet' at Performance Clinics.

It was a 'tour' no doubt.

http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/...1&d=1431756743

http://www.photolap.com/free-photo-s...018Scan343.jpg

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Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 471111)

Also, she was a 'paid'' employee of the Chrysler Racing Program, to go out and 'promote' Chrysler Products at appearances at Dodge Dealerships and Drag Strips.

How come I can never find a cool job like that? :)

Here's a cleaned up and resized version of your photo. Hope you don't mind.

http://107.imagebam.com/download/Elu...n_vs_landy.jpg

Pete

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Pete,

Good photo enhancing......

Shirley Shahan and husband > H.L. Shahan

Cut a 'great deal' with Wynn's Oil Company {Azusa, California} as the primary
sponsor for 1967.

Chrysler 'worked' out the details with the Southern California Dodge Dealers in
covering the costs for the Shahan's 1967 Coronet 'Hemi'.

Plus + Plus = 'a very good income for 1967'.

http://digitalcollections.detroitpub...eam/IMAGE/view

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Great deal and great pic. Thanks Paul.

Pete

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1967 ~ Shirley Shahan

Was it a;
* Coronet 'Model 440' - '426 Street Hemi'
* Coronet R/T ~ '426 Street Hemi'
* Coronet 'Model 440' ~ 'WO23' Hemi'

> Low-back Bucket Seats
> Front-and Rear Bumper Guards
> Chrome-Trim rocker-panel molding
> Front-Grille {Black-out Paint}
> Were the 'R/T' Emblems added on later
> Was the 'WO23' Hood-Scoop added on later.

Here, Shirley is running at an AHRA Track....... Formula Class / B Stock '6'

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...dyLaunchBW.jpg

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Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 471266)

1967 ~ Shirley Shahan

Was it a;
* Coronet 'Model 440' - '426 Street Hemi'
* Coronet R/T ~ '426 Street Hemi'
* Coronet 'Model 440' ~ 'WO23' Hemi'

My guess it was a WO23 Coronet 440 model with R/T emblems and trim. But then it could be a converted R/T which is unlikely due to its heaver weight.

Pete

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Pete,

I think it was a Coronet R/T with the '426 Street Hemi'.

I'm pretty sure Shirley was running the car back in January 1967,
before the WO23 'Super Stock Packages' were released.

Also, here is a photo of the Trunk-Deck Lid, with the R/T deco
trim on the Trunk-Deck lid rear panel.

http://allshops.org/community/Commun...0189943741.jpg

Most of the early SS/B and SS/BA 'Super Stockers' in 1967 added
the WO23 Hood, when it became available in mid-March 1967.

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Originally Posted by HEMIDARTDAVE (Post 471347)

64 Dodge

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...3&d=1432385880

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Originally Posted by HEMIDARTDAVE (Post 471347)

64 Dodge

"Dandy" Dick Landy,,,,, I'm sure theres a cigar in there somewhere!
Danny Durham

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I believe this is the Bob Banning Dodge from a couple of posts back.

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Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 471266)

Paul, in a Mopar magazine interview Shirley she said it was a WO car and that they really had to get sneaky to get weight out of the car because it weighed so much from the Factory....no light weight parts!

JimR

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Originally Posted by Terry Witzel (Post 472437)

I believe this is the Bob Banning Dodge from a couple of posts back.

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...4&d=1433248118 http://classracer.com/classforum/att...5&d=1433216380

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Set some kind of Nascar closed course record.

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Originally Posted by tommy d (Post 473356)

Kind of cool.

Yep !!

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...2&d=1433969563

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Where can I get a copy of that picture?

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Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 473378)

Where can I get a copy of that picture?

Been floating around for a while now. I've never seen a photo credit.

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